Maintenance Schedules, please change them..

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10-30-2013, 02:04 PM
Excer

to be honest i'd rather pay the same amount i do now and the oceanic players continued to get screwed over with maintenance
10-30-2013, 02:11 PM
IvoryFox

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Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi

Ya know, when you are trying to argue to have something done in your favor, or to get people to sympathize with your cause; here is an example of something you don't do.

Just so you know, you are saying the same things all those 'entitled Americans' said. So I guess that makes you an 'entitled [insert nationality here],' or are you some how clear from being called 'entitled' since you aren't North American?

Beat me to it. A guy whines about bad maintenance time and asks for a change due to his individual experience but Americans are the only "entitled" people on earth. Zzz
10-30-2013, 02:12 PM
Magnesium02

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Originally Posted by Almalexia

I don't understand why we can't flip the time zones to follow latitude rather than longitude, then dump maintenance on AST (Antarctic Standard Time).

It's obvious, right?

Yeah, all we gotta do is figure out how to change the earth's daily rotation from being horizontal to vertical!
10-30-2013, 02:22 PM
Brises

Anyone who can't bear to take an evening off from playing once per week or so, should probably consider seeing a therapist. There are days I don't play when the servers are up and running.

And as far as the value of the subscription fee? It was never guaranteed to be for 100% uptime. SE knows that people don't play 24/7. A lot of people will only play a few hours on weekdays. They factor this into their fee as well as planned and unplanned server downtime. I suspect that if they did guarantee 100% uptime, the fee would be a lot more. Perhaps they should charge an hourly fee, or have a meter run while you are logged on, and bill at the end of the month.
10-30-2013, 02:45 PM
GameGeeks

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

They changed it for entitled Americans, that's all they did.. no regard whatsoever to every other region, Eu simply lucked out.

Like i said, 2 hours earlier and most regions will be fine with it.

And you don't come off as entitled? Going around insulting people isn't going get people to sympathize with you. I did till I read this. Now I don't. Not a smart move on your part.
10-30-2013, 02:49 PM
Psychosamm

Just go to a JP server, that's closet to your timezone anyways. And there are plenty of english players on there. They changed the previous time because it befitted 2/3 timezones (NA/EU) Not to mention that their population is significantly higher than yours. Quit complaining because you chose the wrong server to play on.
10-30-2013, 02:53 PM
Reiterpallasch

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Originally Posted by Flionheart

you're not going to get a fruit basket from them.

But omg could you imagine if they actually sent you one? What do you suppose would be in it, anyways? Maybe just a banana and two oranges? Sounds about right to me.
10-30-2013, 02:57 PM
kasuke06

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

But omg could you imagine if they actually sent you one? What do you suppose would be in it, anyways? Maybe just a banana and two oranges? Sounds about right to me.

square watermelons!
10-30-2013, 02:58 PM
ChronoCross

I don't mind the times they use to do maintenance, even though it is prime time where i'm at in the states. What I do mind is that it happens more than once weekly, without any information as to what they are having maintenance on. If it's really an emergency, then explain what it is, or else it's not an emergency and can wait. Spend more resources creating new content and bringing it to us faster. That is where your time and money should be going SE.
10-30-2013, 02:59 PM
AltaneenXIV

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

They changed it for entitled Americans, that's all they did.. no regard whatsoever to every other region, Eu simply lucked out.

Like i said, 2 hours earlier and most regions will be fine with it.

Calls Americans entitled for asking for maintenance change while asking for maintenance change himself.

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10-30-2013, 03:01 PM
Tagihi

well sometimes we all have to deal with it.

Is not that they have maintenance everday.
10-30-2013, 03:13 PM
Akuha

I, too, understand that maintenance needs to happen.
I do not, however, understand why it has to happen 3 nights in a row.
10-30-2013, 03:15 PM
ShinkuTachi

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Originally Posted by Akuha

I do not, however, understand why it has to happen 3 nights in a row.

Because we don't live in a perfect world; and at times, a fix of one issue can bring up another.
10-30-2013, 03:17 PM
AccountBanned

I agree it's horrible...it basically screws me once a week...
10-30-2013, 03:18 PM
blowfin

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Originally Posted by Flionheart

"Much more money"

lol.

Stop trying to make up for SE's inadequacies, you're not going to get a fruit basket from them.

Where would you rather the money went? Into developing content, or into paying technicians more to do maintenance at odd hours so they can placate people whining about maintenance?
10-30-2013, 03:19 PM
Aldehido

Here is the thing. It deends on the server zone.
10-30-2013, 03:20 PM
Gardthorne

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

There's always going to be 1 region that gets screwed over, and I completely understand this... but surely you can change the hours slightly?

At least you're fully aware that you're basically asking them to please screw over someone else.
10-30-2013, 03:24 PM
Akuha

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Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi

Because we don't live in a perfect world; and at times, a fix of one issue can bring up another.

Maybe I was being a bit too cynical, but that's a conditioned behavior on my part. Part of my job requires me to pay very close attention to detail. When something is changed, make sure the change agrees with everything touching it before throwing the contraption back together and hoping it works.
10-30-2013, 03:26 PM
Mikedizzy

Yeah...this has been two days in a row though...that sucks!!!! How much damn maintenance does this game need???
10-30-2013, 03:29 PM
joshdavis271

Does anyone do anything else besides playing FFXIV all day long? Try getting some sleep, take a shower, watch a movie, play another game, and before you know it, maintenance is over.
10-30-2013, 03:33 PM
GeilLega

Funny...

The whole reason OP is upset is because he does all those things, and has a few hours every evening to play, and can't. And I think his main complaint -- and I get it, even though maintenance is for me 11pm-2am local -- is that he's paying for a service, and he's missing out on that service about 33% of the time right now. If your mobile worked 66% of the time and someone said "hey why don't you just chat face to face and live in the real world a bit" you would not be happy with their helpful advice.

On a side note, impacting maintenance does not need to happen. It's the fault of the product and the service architecture that we have to have it. That said, if we have to have it, let's have it once a week tops, hmm? On whatever the least played day is, please.
10-30-2013, 03:36 PM
kasuke06

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Originally Posted by GeilLega

The whole reason OP is upset is because he does all those things, and has a few hours every evening to play, and can't. And I think his main complaint -- and I get it, even though maintenance is for me 11pm-2am local -- is that he's paying for a service, and he's missing out on that service about 33% of the time right now. If your mobile worked 66% of the time and someone said "hey why don't you just chat face to face and live in the real world a bit" you would not be happy with their helpful advice.

On a side note, impacting maintenance does not need to happen. It's the fault of the product and the service architecture that we have to have it. That said, if we have to have it, let's have it once a week tops, hmm? On whatever the least played day is, please.

"EMERGENCY MAINTENANCE" yes, that screams prolong it as much as possible.
10-30-2013, 03:38 PM
ShinkuTachi

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Originally Posted by Akuha

Maybe I was being a bit too cynical, but that's a conditioned behavior on my part. Part of my job requires me to pay very close attention to detail. When something is changed, make sure the change agrees with everything touching it before throwing the contraption back together and hoping it works.

No problem, and I appreciate you not taking what I said personally. Basically, when a maintenance is done or when a patch/update is implemented, they have no true way of telling how well it will actually work until the mass player-base gets their hands into it. So every now and then, we end up with repeated maintenance intervals like we are having now. It's just the nature of the beast. Though, so far they are doing things much better than they did in FFXI. There were times in that game where maintenance would be near daily for up to a couple of weeks; and before Rise of the Zilart came out, dear lord, lets just forget there was a time before Zilart xD

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Originally Posted by joshdavis271

Does anyone do anything else besides playing FFXIV all day long? Try getting some sleep, take a shower, watch a movie, play another game, and before you know it, maintenance is over.

NO!
Life outside of FF, wtf is this heresy!
10-30-2013, 03:40 PM
Ryuko

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

Maintenance screws over Oceanic players 100% of the time.

Maintenance is always 7pm to 10-11pm New Zealand time

The OP points out his location and explained why the maintenance schedule is bad for him... but what he fails to realize is it's always 7pm to 10-11pm somewhere. Where I live (East Coast USA), maintenance starts at 2am. For pacific players, it starts at 11pm. That cuts out a huge portion of the West Coast players' playing time. These maintenance takes place in the morning for European players and Midday for the Japanese players. Someone, somewhere, is going to be unhappy no matter when 'scheduled' maintenance happens. Plus, there are lots of people with an irregular work schedule. I'm personally just glad that it's scheduled and not random... at least I know when to anticipate it.
10-30-2013, 03:41 PM
Ashent

Move down 2 hrs and another part of the world gets screwed. So no matter which way, someone has to take a hit.

This reminds me of my WOW days, where they always have maintenance every single week at 7pm-12am (GMT+8). Maintenance notice is usually given a few days before, so think of it as a mandatory break from gaming. Use that time to gym, go out on a date with gf etc etc. I don't know about you but a mandatory break is good at some point every week.
10-30-2013, 03:50 PM
homunyan

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

Hi,
Those of us that work 9-5 in the Oceanic Region are suffering really bad from these issues.

You guys actually only have to work 9-5 over there? Lucky bastards, every fulltime job I've worked is 8-5 with an unpaid lunch break you're required to take.

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