this game is all about grinding at max level.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

I would have liked the grind spread out more over level 1-50 rather than heavily focused at endgame.

Funny the amount of effort the devs put into >50 dungeons, guildhests, armor, storyline, weapons, mobs, quests, zones, etc, etc. And all of it is a mere speedbump in the road over by a game that allows you to skyrocket yourself to the cap in record time via FATEs.

If they had really spread out the grind over 50 levels, only the hardest of the hardcores would be bored at this point.

It seems like a waste of dev effort to make all that stuff imho - and people whine because there isn't enough to do at the point where Yoshi intended our focus to be.

2.10 might change this, but I still think there is a lot of wasted potential in not making level >50 content more meaningful via a longer grind.

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I think this is what the OP was trying to get at..

Anyways, thumbs up.

Some people even grind from 1 to 50 doing FATES etc

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Originally Posted by Pellegri

Whoa, I mean whoa. An mmo that is nothing more than grinding at max level? Surely this game must be the first with a grind in it even though this is only how they've been for the last 13-15 years or so.

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While I see your point, I must point out that other games have better ways of hiding it and making it more enjoyable/less monotonous.

Yes, MMOs tend to be grindy.

FFXIV still has crappy end-game.

It's quite feasible for a game to be TOO grindy. There are varying degrees. But then again, fanboys will be fanboys.

FFXIV's end-game is ill-paced and lacking. You focus the most on grinding faceroll dungeons for 100 tomes at a time. The most popular hardly requires any brain cells!

This is why I wish dungeon bosses had meaningful loot drops. That encourages variety in gameplay. I need to run X dungeon for this and Y dungeon for that. With the token system, people simply grind the easiest method. FFXIV's end-game is already limited as it is and is even more limited because of the behavior the token system encourages.

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Originally Posted by Kayo

LOL! Ok so first you complain about the grind (the most efficient carrot on a stick there is), then make a stab at how it has an ending. Question: Are you even in high school yet? Your trolling is amateurish, at best.

Let me know when that totally original, never-ending MMORPG with no repetitive content that youre so eager to play comes out.

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Why are you so rude?
Rude as hell post.

Yeah wtf? Its like they want us to experience end game or something.

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Originally Posted by gok19k

fanboyz will be always happy, true gamers like myself will tell the truth and will get flammed.

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Guys, listen to him. He's a true gamer. One of the chosen ones.