Chill

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Originally Posted by Freakiie

So wait. Asking people to speak english (which according to the OP they were capable off) when queuing up for the DF as ENGLISH speaking players is being a douchebag? Gotcha!

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There's asking and there's rudely interupting a conversation.

I am abolutely convinced that this topic would not even exist if the OP had just taken the trouble to type out:
"Can you please speak English?"

Aside from that, I am convinced by the way the OP is responding that perhaps more happened than he or she is letting go here.

When I join a pug group as a native English speaker I have no problems understanding that I might get a non-english group if I select all langauges when I queue up. I just send out a message through auto-translater letting them know I speak English and it is up to the party members to decided if they want to communicate with me.

This sounds like you have a strong sense of entitlement that everything should be in English just because you only know English. The world doesn't revolve around English and saying "English pls" can be offensive to non-English players. It kinda dumb to me that you can't even bother using proper English to request that people use English. If anything the players would know proper English over acronyms and internet slang.

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Originally Posted by Freakiie

So wait. Asking people to speak english (which according to the OP they were capable off) when queuing up for the DF as ENGLISH speaking players is being a douchebag? Gotcha!

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OP didn’t so much “ask” as “dictate”. Moreover, people are not obligated to talk to you in any language regardless whether it’s DF or not. And when the conversation is social in nature, the OP has no right to inject himself into a conversation he is not a part of. How do you think you'd look if you walk up to a couple strangers in a store talking to each other in a foreign language and tell them "english pls"?

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Originally Posted by Reslin

Fun fact. English is not the most spoken language in the world. It's the second most spoken language in the world. Mandarin is actually the most spoken language.

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Pssh, what are you doing here with facts? Those are not welcome here!!!!

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Originally Posted by Nica

OP didn’t so much “ask” as “dictate”. Moreover, people are not obligated to talk to you in any language regardless whether it’s DF or not. And when the conversation is social in nature, the OP has no right to inject himself into a conversation he is not a part of. How do you think you'd look if you walk up to a couple strangers in a store talking to each other in a foreign language and tell them "english pls"?

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This is NOT a random store where you walk in, this is when you're working on some project and suddenly two people in your group start talking in some language nobody understands while you're trying to finish your project. I don't know, but I'm pretty damn sure most people wouldn't appreciate that.

Also if "english pls" is already dictating how people are supposed to play holy crap what is this community coming too. Soon you'll need to write a 10 page essay in the most polite writing possible to check whether it's ok to even ask something.

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Originally Posted by Freakiie

Soon you'll need to write a 10 page essay in the most polite writing possible to check whether it's ok to even ask something.

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no, just a few letters, a couple of words and a questionmark.

You expect us to conform, we expect the same of you.

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Originally Posted by Freakiie

This is NOT a random store where you walk in, this is when you're working on some project and suddenly two people in your group start talking in some language nobody understands while you're trying to finish your project. I don't know, but I'm pretty damn sure most people wouldn't appreciate that.

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If you have a problem with people speaking a language outside your own then why not join a FC that can run all the dungeons you require in your language? Your analogy is wrong. It would be more like 4 random people being pushed together to finish a project and you demanding they all speak english regardless of their knowledge of the language just because you feel english is superior or because you don't want to be in the dark about what they are talking about.

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Originally Posted by Freakiie

This is NOT a random store where you walk in

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It's DF, you can't get anymore random than that. Those people are not OP's friends.

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this is when you're working on some project and suddenly two people in your group start talking in some language nobody understands while you're trying to finish your project. I don't know, but I'm pretty damn sure most people wouldn't appreciate that.

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Why? do you get offended too when your friends want to have a private conversation that doesn't include you? Have you even ever had experience working with people who speaks other languages? what you claim "most people wouldn't appreciate" happens about once every two minutes where I work.

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Also if "english pls" is already dictating how people are supposed to play holy crap what is this community coming too. Soon you'll need to write a 10 page essay in the most polite writing possible to check whether it's ok to even ask something.

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context matters.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

The majority of the world speaks english. For good or not the primary language for most people is english.

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Ummm what? Try 7% native English speakers and 30% as a second language. Hardly the majority of the world.

http://www.davetalks.com/articles/sy...ences-work.htm

And if you really wanted to get specific, the majority of the world's population would speak Mandarin. So chinese pls.

The duty finder doesn't pull people just on your server. It pulls from all servers. You know how you can select all languages to queue up for? Other people in other countries have the same option. Likely there are fewer FR and GR players.. so using some logic here... if there are fewer FR and GR players then they could and likely do have longer queue times if they want to try to get a only FR or GR group. So say you have 3 FR players and they want a quick dungeon run. Would you wait for your language to pop or select JP and EN so that you can get a faster pop on the dungeon you want?

Nothing in the game says they NEED to know English and because you don't understand the Duty Finder or relative population issues for specific languages then YOU are upset that they don't speak english. The only problem here is YOU.

Als ik in een groep en ik besef iemand anders spreekt nederlands Ik zal met ze praten. Het is zeldzaam en voegt leuk. Het is niets tegen u dus neem het niet persoonlijk.

Ook is het onbeleefd van je om jezelf in te voegen in een gesprek dat je geen deel van. Engels is niet de enige taal en in de veronderstelling dat we allemaal moeten spreken het is elitair. Misschien moeten we aandringen "nederlandse alstublieft".

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

Als ik in een groep en ik besef iemand anders spreekt nederlands Ik zal met ze praten. Het is zeldzaam en voegt leuk. Het is niets tegen u dus neem het niet persoonlijk.

Ook is het onbeleefd van je om jezelf in te voegen in een gesprek dat je geen deel van. Engels is niet de enige taal en in de veronderstelling dat we allemaal moeten spreken het is elitair. Misschien moeten we aandringen "nederlandse alstublieft".

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Als langenoot groet ik u.
En nee, Nederlands aub. Dat zal ze nog meer verwarren.

Want dat was immers de taal die ze allemaal zouden spreken als wij op 24 September 1664 Nieuw Amsterdam niet hadden gecapituleerd aan de Britten.

The last thing you want to say to someone who needs to chill out is "chill".

There are very few DF situations in this game where you even need to communicate with other people. The situations that require communication usually shouldn't be done with DF anyway.

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Originally Posted by mouseno4

When someone says ''English pls''

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You could try typing a complete sentence. Itd sound more like a respectful request and less like a sarcastic and disrespectful command coming from the bitter fat chick at the DMV.

Not that what he did was justified but its kinda hard to tell a persons tone through the internet a lot of times.

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Originally Posted by Amenian

Ummm what? Try 7% native English speakers and 30% as a second language. Hardly the majority of the world.

http://www.davetalks.com/articles/sy...ences-work.htm

And if you really wanted to get specific, the majority of the world's population would speak Mandarin. So chinese pls.

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Sure 7% world wide, but how many of those are actually relevant to the game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ing_population

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