Open World PvP server

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

@Joeking 1-2k players for one pvp world is a big cost to SE they have to make the world with it's own rules make it so no one can attack DOL/DOH make the battle system and the spell and so on work for the pvp world. They have to make events and more update for pvp events. That pretty much a full new team just working on it. it would cost more money to SE then it's worth.

They would need 20 PVE and 15+ PVP worlds with more then 1k players on each world to make it worth doing all the hard work and we all know that SE wont even waste there time on it. There so much in ffxiv undone and wasting time and stuff we never going to have because they to lazy or cant' do it. the game been out for more then 6month and still have not saw a big update that make this game worth playing.

Just my two cents :) don't want to be rude i know that i love some stuff that other players would never want but this is something SE wont waste there time on. at least now for a very very very very long time and by then it be to late Blizzard new mmo would be out and ffxiv would be the same as FFXI with a few player base playing it.

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We currently have 18 servers bringing no money, might as well close this freak show down.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

And why cant Japanese play on an OWPvP server with everyone else? WHy are you being so racist?

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The R........ Word....

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

And why cant Japanese play on an OWPvP server with everyone else? WHy are you being so racist?

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wtf are you talking about racist? am talking about the fact that Japan want there own world away from everyone else and SE said no too them. Which mean why the hell would they make a OWPVP world becuase the USA players want it "Note: OWPVP for everyone but USA are the only one who really asking for it" When Japan players got shut down about JPONLY worlds.

You really need to take a chill pill all am saying it wont happen they don't want to cut down the worlds for only PVP,PVE,RP.

Why the need for open pvp? you do know that just get issue with PVE events? they have to fix all the spell and so on and that too much work and many of the spell would get nuke thanks to open pvp.

Why not just add pvp events like ffxi had? like i said before a area you could airship battle,ship battle,pvp battle. something like Battleground from wow but there no PVP only gear and they don't have to nuke down everyone stuff everything get fix once you enter the pvp area but once you leave it back to PVE way.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

wtf are you talking about racist? am talking about the fact that Japan want there own world away from everyone else and SE said no too them. Which mean why the hell would they make a OWPVP world becuase the USA players want it "Note: OWPVP for everyone but USA are the only one who really asking for it" When Japan players got shut down about JPONLY worlds.

You really need to take a chill pill all am saying it wont happen they don't want to cut down the worlds for only PVP,PVE,RP.

Why the need for open pvp? you do know that just get issue with PVE events? they have to fix all the spell and so on and that too much work and many of the spell would get nuke thanks to open pvp.

Why not just add pvp events like ffxi had? like i said before a area you could airship battle,ship battle,pvp battle. something like Battleground from wow but there no PVP only gear and they don't have to nuke down everyone stuff everything get fix once you enter the pvp area but once you leave it back to PVE way.

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Please stop calling JP players carebears. For all you know, they might like to play on OWPvP servers too. I think you're way out of line saying JP players shouldn't be able to play on OWPvP servers. That's not very fair at all.

Also, PvP and PvE dont need to cause rebalance issues. All they need to do is make a spell do a different effect when it is cast on a player as opposed to when cast on a mob. PvP doesnt have to effect PvE. This has been proven time and time again.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Please stop calling JP players carebears. For all you know, they might like to play on OWPvP servers too. I think you're way out of line saying JP players shouldn't be able to play on OWPvP servers. That's not very fair at all.

Also, PvP and PvE dont need to cause rebalance issues. All they need to do is make a spell do a different effect when it is cast on a player as opposed to when cast on a mob. PvP doesnt have to effect PvE. This has been proven time and time again.

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Dude 0.o what are you talking about am giving you a example you asking for open world PVP right? Japan players ask before the game open in alpha for JP only worlds SE said no about the idea because they want all players to play in the same world. So going by that, this is the reason they wont add open pvp. Why are you trying to mix my words? to make me sound like a jack@$$? i never said that JP wont like it or not allow them to enter the pvp word just telling you that jp ask for there own world and they said no and it the same reason they would say no to the openpvp idea.

Yes i agree but I don't think SE would do all the work to make it does a different effect it sound a like a good idea tho :) maybe if wow did this they did not have to fix and nuke everyone every patch.

Anyways am done here i told you 5+times why they wont add openpvp we don't need it events like we had in ffxi pvp yes but not open world pvp FFXIV and ffxi is about every player base to play together under one type of world and everyone can level anything and do everything in the world they want cutting the world would mean players would need two chars one for PVP one for PVE and one for PR if they want to do all 3. this is the reason they did not do this so everyone can do everything within one world top of that they dont' like the idea of open pvp or dual outside city for that matter.

Well sure, if you're going to be racist about it.

But in my opinion, I think JP players are just as entitled to play on OWPvP servers as we are. But if you want to exclude them, that's your perogative.

Let me do this to your bot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTrfSH3mTtg

If you dont want me to do this, you are a bot.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Well sure, if you're going to be racist about it.

But in my opinion, I think JP players are just as entitled to play on OWPvP servers as we are. But if you want to exclude them, that's your perogative.

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o.o wow are you serious let me explain this in a 3grade way

"You ask for open PVP world only" I give you a "EXAMPLE!!!" That Japan players ask SE in Alpha forums for JP only servers once the game go live They reply by saying "no we don't want to split the player base"

"Then i said why would they give us "Open PVP worlds" [Note: Which any person can join EU,DU,JP,NA,EU and so on" when they denied japan player base of the request of there own jp world?


By all means how is that racist? please explain where did i said i don't want JP on the owpvp? all i was saying is they wont add a OWPVP server because JP got denied of JP only worlds when they ask for it in alpha and replay by saying
"no we don't want to split the player base" Which entitles that SE would not add Open pvp worlds or any type of open pvp system or a dual system in the game because both Tanaka and Yoshi said no to this request.

And Tanaka and yoshi both said no to the idea of adding Open pvp system or added PVP,PVE,RP worlds.

Maybe you did not understand my "EXAMPLE!!" or you playing dumb.

At the end they not adding open world pvp or a server for it they said no and it wont happen. If you still want it then play the other 99.99% of game that have this if this break the game for you.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Let me do this to your bot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTrfSH3mTtg

If you dont want me to do this, you are a bot.

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How am i a bot? That game just look like other RIFT/Aion if you like it so much why don't you play that then ffxiv? I'm sorry that am not in to open world PVP and "SE does not like the idea also"

So you're saying Square Enix is the racist?

They are racist to all peoples?

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

So you're saying Square Enix is the racist?

They are racist to all peoples?

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what the hell are you talking about dude are you on drugs? They don't want to cut the player base into PVP,PVE,RP worlds that not being racist they just don't like that idea.

and they don't like open pvp.... how hard is that to understand?

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

what the hell are you talking about dude are you on drugs? They don't want to cut the player base into PVP,PVE,RP worlds that not being racist they just don't like that idea.

and they don't like open pvp.... how hard is that to understand?

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Why didn't you say so earlier? I thought you were trying to call them racists.

But you know, everyone is still separated into servers.

Why can't I play on Wutai and Trabia at the same time? Why cant i play on Lindblum and Rabanastre at the same time? Why?

If we are going to be segregated anyway by a racist Apartheid, we might as well be separated onto a server we like the rules of. Which is why we should have an Open World PvP server.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

But you know, everyone is still separated into servers.

Why can't I play on Wutai and Trabia at the same time? Why cant i play on Lindblum and Rabanastre at the same time? Why?

If we are going to be segregated anyway by a racist Apartheid, we might as well be separated onto a server we like the rules of. Which is why we should have an Open World PvP server.

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Why don't we have separated servers becuase SE like the idea of all players playing within one world. So at any even hour you see lot's of players which you can do mission,quest, level and so on. That why they even allow us to level up all everything we want within one Char same like FFXI. Unlike wow,rift which have 3mil-10mil players and have the idea of just basing it off pvp,pve,RP and even by where you live. SE does not agree with open pvp or dual or PVP,PVE,RP.

Did you even play FFXI? or you came from wow? because really if you looking for a open pvp with dual and PVP world you better off quiting and joining rift or something it wont happen in ffxiv.

The only type of PVP we going to have is the same in ffxi you enter a area and you fight like a type of battle ground but there no point to it beside fighting your friends you don't get any type of reward.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Why don't we have separated servers becuase SE like the idea of all players playing within one world. So at any even hour you see lot's of players which you can do mission,quest, level and so on.

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Good. More people to kill on my OWPvP server then.

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That why they even allow us to level up all everything we want within one Char same like FFXI. Unlike wow,rift which have 3mil-10mil players and have the idea of just basing it off pvp,pve,RP and even by where you live. SE does not agree with open pvp or dual or PVP,PVE,RP.

Did you even play FFXI? or you came from wow? because really if you looking for a open pvp with dual and PVP world you better off quiting and joining rift or something it wont happen in ffxiv.

The only type of PVP we going to have is the same in ffxi you enter a area and you fight like a type of battle ground but there no point to it beside fighting your friends you don't get any type of reward.

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I want ballista.

But i want the whole world to be compulsory ballista.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Good. More people to kill on my OWPvP server then.



I want ballista.

But i want the whole world to be compulsory ballista.

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once again they wont make it open pvp you have to go talk to a npc wait for other player to sign up and then you enter ballista other players wont see you and you can't see them to stop the lag.

but open pvp that everyone can get kill if your flag is up or someone ask you to dual wont happen sorry.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

once again they wont make it open pvp you have to go talk to a npc wait for other player to sign up and then you enter ballista other players wont see you and you can't see them to stop the lag.

but open pvp that everyone can get kill if your flag is up or someone ask you to dual wont happen sorry.

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Why?

Don't you want SE to be rich?

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Why?

Don't you want SE to be rich?

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SE don't like that idea and a big % of Final fantasy fan dislike this idea and one of the reason they wont add it was because Jp players do not agree with the idea of open/dual pvp system and FFXIV big player base is Japan and alway would be.

adding open pvp wont make them rich they need

Real time card for this game

TV ads in USA and lot's of marketing in USA

oh and make this game into a wow-clone and name it final fantasy warcraft XIV :)

and fix it so ppl with low end pc can run this game without issue.

Just stop replying zenaku, its not going to happen anyway, no need to keep at it.

Wait let me contribute to this thread as gifthorse would...I press down to go left, up is a circle.

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Originally Posted by Sojiro

Just stop replying zenaku, its not going to happen anyway no need to keep at it.

Wait let me contribute to this thread as gifthorse would...I press down to go left, up is a circle.

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Sometime is nice to feed the troll but ya gifthorse is a joke like a few other here :)

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

Why?

Don't you want SE to be rich?

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PvP won't make SE rich.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

PvP won't make SE rich.

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OWPvP on the other hand...

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

OWPvP on the other hand...

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It's a ridiculous suggestion. Move on.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

It's a ridiculous suggestion. Move on.

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you just dont want me to be happy

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

you just dont want me to be happy

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That's Correct

Actually, i'm all for keeping the game with the Final Fantasy Feel, but I do believe that a PvP Server will do them good. I wouldn't mind starting a character on that server myself, and I am strongly against PvP, but for the sake of having something different in the Final Fantasy Series, they should make the Player-Companies (whenever they are introduced) hold PvP content, and fight battles against each other, as how clans worked in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance/2.

In fact, there should even be a way to to this in the normal PvE servers.. Company vs Company would be very similar to the FFTA Clans vs Clans. Would be a great addition to the game. Whether it be like Ballista on open field or Colosseum Competitions. Would be great to have this. Specter Mode would be just a godly addition for making video of said battles.

I just want to go up to someone and kill them. No strings attached. I want a fling, a dalliance, im too young for a fullblown relationship just yet.

just let me kill someone, omg.

how hard can it be?

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

I just want to go up to someone and kill them. No strings attached.

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Not sure how that would work or fit in with the rest of the game though. I'm not against it, but I just don't see that happening.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Not sure how that would work or fit in with the rest of the game though. I'm not against it, but I just don't see that happening.

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Well I imagine it would start with me unsheathing my weapon and hitting someone over the head with it.

I don't mean to spoil the ending, but it finishes with me looting their corpse and dancing on their grave.

Upon the last tortoise spewed forth a galleon of imbercrusted flames and lo did that tortoise hearken upon his sollow comrads in the midst of this twisted and vile tower.

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Originally Posted by Zahak

Upon the last tortoise spewed forth a galleon of imbercrusted flames and lo did that tortoise hearken upon his sollow comrads in the midst of this twisted and vile tower.

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Took the words right out of my mouth.

Couldnt have said it better myself.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

I just want to go up to someone and kill them. No strings attached. I want a fling, a dalliance, im too young for a fullblown relationship just yet.

just let me kill someone, omg.

how hard can it be?

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I'm just wondering, have you even played any offline Final Fantasy games? If you had, you might begin to understand what a downright absurd idea that is for this franchise.

Seriously, if open hardcore PvP is what you want, you should look elsewhere. Something like DAOC or Lineage 2 would be a much better fit for you. Granted, you'll get pwned pretty fast by other players who will dance on your grave, etc... but at least you'll be in familiar company.

While I'm all for killing bots, no. Open world PvP is one of the reasons I hated Aion so much. It's just not my thing, I prefer structured group PvP, not senseless ganking.

Especially with gathering (and to a lesser extent crafting) is I can see people abandoning gathering altogether due to massive assholes killing them while they're defenseless at a node.

Final Fantasy Deathmatch.


gh.


What have I just seen.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

I'm just wondering, have you even played any offline Final Fantasy games? If you had, you might begin to understand what a downright absurd idea that is for this franchise.

Seriously, if open hardcore PvP is what you want, you should look elsewhere. Something like DAOC or Lineage 2 would be a much better fit for you. Granted, you'll get pwned pretty fast by other players who will dance on your grave, etc... but at least you'll be in familiar company.

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Wow, you need to rewatch the opening cutscene for Final Fantasy 8. Siefer and Squall are PvPing their hearts out.

gifthorse it not going to happen get over yourself play the other 99.99% of games out there and stop trolling your full of it and no one really care right now what you have to say you making a fool of yourself move on -.-


"Request Mod lock"

PvP doesn't belong in this game. Sorry. If it's that bad stop trying to change the brand people love and go play something else. Not to be a dick, but getting sick of PvP talk for an obviously PvE oriented brand.

This game has abilities that were originally meant for pvp. SE said so in some interviews during beta.

Open world pvp between companies would be great fun. Defend your companies house/fortress from raids from other companies (capture the flag type). Server time based pvp events. Nations go to war. Factions in each nation that fight each other like gangs. 1v1 duels or party duel options even. Rewards and some type of point system. All of this being something you could join by choice of course. I'm hoping for some pvp.

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Originally Posted by Valhinjin

PvP doesn't belong in this game. Sorry. If it's that bad stop trying to change the brand people love and go play something else. Not to be a dick, but getting sick of PvP talk for an obviously PvE oriented brand.

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Suddenly you're the boss of Final Fantasy or something? Get over yourself.

I like Gifthorse in his more cynical days lol.

+1 for a good laugh :D

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Originally Posted by Bled

I like Gifthorse in his more cynical days lol.

+1 for a good laugh :D

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I would rather he contributed more than just laughs... but that remains to be seen.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Only if C becomes a "tea-bag" function key, where it causes you to crouch and stand repeatedly for 6 seconds.

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1. Roegadyn /stretch motion
2. Roegadyn /psych motion

Position Roegadyn #1 in front of #2
1 + 2 = WIN, 'nuff said.