8M to 24M to 8M bouncing will ruin tanking in this game!!!

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Originally Posted by Sentinel

You just made an oxymoron comment. Leveling a DPS or healer to compliment the main role makes it similar to WoW, my point is, this game takes the issue that exists in wow to the next level, tanks in WoW can also OS DPS or heals, its not unique to this game, but the design in this game makes the situation worse, read my original post carefully.

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You cannot have multiple classes for one character in WoW. That alone was my point.

Stop complaining. Have alternative classes ready when not as many tanks are needed for larger groups. Seriously. Shhhh.

Greed/Need exists for a reason. Your FC has the responsibility to ensure you still get geared based on your merits.

The problem with the OP is the assumption of the 24 man makeup, until we get the details we don't know how many tanks/healer/dps we are going to actually need.

Now if you have details on that, please post them. I think everyone would like to know so they can start theorycrafting.

Didn't they say that the Crystal Tower will require the raid to split up into smaller groups in places and complete different objectives simultaneously? If that's the case then there's no problem...

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Originally Posted by Issac

You cannot have multiple classes for one character in WoW. That alone was my point.

Stop complaining. Have alternative classes ready when not as many tanks are needed for larger groups. Seriously. Shhhh.

Greed/Need exists for a reason. Your FC has the responsibility to ensure you still get geared based on your merits.

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You are still restricted to the same lockouts and currency cap, so having multiple classes IS the same as having specs in WoW. I agree with you on the Greed/Need, but that also exists for tanks in WoW with their DPS/healing OS, the problem is also worse in this game (see my original post) as you will continue to go back to 8M and then to 24M during a given tier in this game.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

Didn't they say that the Crystal Tower will require the raid to split up into smaller groups in places and complete different objectives simultaneously? If that's the case then there's no problem...

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You got me there, if that is the case, I hope that is true. Would love it if someone can dig up proof on this.

Since we are playing Final Fantasy the real solution would be to level up and equip multiple jobs. You know... like you are supposed to.

You cant level a single class and expect to be viable in every situation. That's not how the game works.

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Originally Posted by Sentinel

You got me there, if that is the case, I hope that is true. Would love it if someone can dig up proof on this.

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i doubt it , because then how bosses will work? 3 bosses ? ....how thats different from playing 8 man content?

i think 24 man will require 2 tanks only , 4 heals , and then DPS.

I can see it requiring 6 tanks. Sword Oath or turning off Defiance to DPS? Seems like a no brainer here...

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Originally Posted by Sentinel

You got me there, if that is the case, I hope that is true. Would love it if someone can dig up proof on this.

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Well in 1.0 some dungeons required our 8 man party to split into two 4 man party and acomplish some objectives at the exact same time.

So I think it should be something similar

So, let me see if I've got this straight...

Business As Usual
- Tanks in extreme high demand, low supply
- Tanks are treated as gods, instantly forgiven for all mistakes, tolerated even if trolling
- Tanks get instant queues for any dungeon content they want. If party isn't "good enough" for them, they'll leave and find another.
- "if dps dont liek it suck it up princess!!!!!!1!!! y u no roll a tank go back to wow lololololol"

GAME-RUINING HORROR!!!!
- Maybe slightly fewer tanks needed for certain 24-player raids, in comparison to the status quo
- Your regular hard-core raid group might not need you to tank tonight? "They fired me!! Thanks for forcing me to leave my FC and roll on a new server, Obama!!"
- Wait, no instant DF queue for 24-player raids!? I might have to wait upwards of whole minutes, just to get into a dungeon!?!?!? What is this, the Depression!?!?
- "Leveling a DPS or healer to complement the main role makes it similar to WoW... the design in this game makes the situation worse"