AV (Absolute Virtue) in today's MMO's possible?

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Originally Posted by Ikkenoe

If they were all so easy, where is your relic? It seems a bit like you've done Ifrit and assume everything else is more of the same.

(For the record, I do consider getting relic to be a bit too easy, but I'm not sure you're in a position to judge)



Oh, okay. Please tell us about your progress in Binding Coil. How do you feel about turns 4 and 5 specifically?

I can't tell if your post is satire or you're just unwittingly underscoring the precise phenomenon I addressed in the second part of my first post.

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It is a fact that all HM primal encounters are succesfully pugged. It is a fact, that AK is being succesfully pugged. It is a fact that both other 8 man raids are being succesfully pugged.

Pick up groups, should not be able to storm through new HARD MODE content - period.

If the binding coil will be any different than these so called "hard mode" fights, I doubt it will be enough to warrant a subscription.

Now, it might be possible that you think these are hard. I won't doubt that.

If you have any - real hard mode - raiding experience tell me: How would a healer using a joypad fare on Ragnaros Heroic? He wouldn't. Alas, this game needs to be balanced for those players as well. Therefore you can kiss challenging content goodbye.

It is a fact you make baseless claims founded upon assumption. It is a fact you're attempting to play the part of the expert witness regarding content you've never experienced.

But seriously, go beat Titan then play around in Coil, come back and report your findings.

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Originally Posted by Ikkenoe

It is a fact you make baseless claims founded upon assumption. It is a fact you're attempting to play the part of the expert witness regarding content you've never experienced.

But seriously, go beat Titan then play around in Coil, come back and report your findings.

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I guess your notion of hard differs from mine - especially if you needed a coordinated group for Titan, while everyone on the server is pugging it.

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Originally Posted by mekia

everyone is bitching at XIV ARR for being to easy etc.

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Posting a ludicrous over-exaggeration doesn't really lend for a serious discussion now, does it?

My guess is Titan Extreme will crush people's will to live once released.

since op mentioning AV....

Right now in XI scene & Adoulin expansion, there's this Wildkeepers Reive content where non JP will take about 12 hours avg to beat it, this especially happens at Yorcia Weald reive.

Wanna give it a go? lol

As the guy who maintanked one of the worlds' first, if not *the* world's first legit (ie no wall of justice/footprint abuse) Absolute Virtue kill, I can safely say that adding something like AV to this game would be completely retarded.

As much of a rush it was killing him, I don't really want to spend another 5 hours of sac-pulls to keep a mob from disappearing as we figure out how we're going to kill him, along with the 1.5 hour ordeal of actually bringing him from 100-0.

Though I will admit that it was pretty nice to see so much of the server come out to both watch and chip in with COR 2hrs and being nice enough to trade me ninja tools halfway through the fight while we were fighting because we were at it so damn long that I ran out. R.I.P. Fairy Server, you were awesome.

Rather than Absolute Virtue, I'd like something like Final Fantasy XIs Waking the Beast quest... We already got a glimpse of that hell, sorta... And you know, I really can't think of a better purpose for the Harder Mode fights they're putting in 2.1... +1 weapons I guess? Meh... Beat the Harder Mode versions, then face up against all three at once for some freakish chimera of all their weapons...

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Originally Posted by Furio

It is a fact that all HM primal encounters are succesfully pugged. It is a fact, that AK is being succesfully pugged. It is a fact that both other 8 man raids are being succesfully pugged.

Pick up groups, should not be able to storm through new HARD MODE content - period.

If the binding coil will be any different than these so called "hard mode" fights, I doubt it will be enough to warrant a subscription.

Now, it might be possible that you think these are hard. I won't doubt that.

If you have any - real hard mode - raiding experience tell me: How would a healer using a joypad fare on Ragnaros Heroic? He wouldn't. Alas, this game needs to be balanced for those players as well. Therefore you can kiss challenging content goodbye.

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You failed to answer his questions about your own progress in the game I notice. Talking from first-hand experience are you about how easy it is?

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Originally Posted by Kraggy

Posting a ludicrous over-exaggeration doesn't really lend for a serious discussion now, does it?

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So does your pointless post thanks for contributing nothing but a fart :).