How i spent and earned 12 Million gil in the markets

I don't think this translates well on a new server considering the most you can have just completing side quests and the main story is about 300k. As there are several other posts that outline this better, there are no significant new sources of gil coming into the economy, so everyone's 300k gil is just sort of circulating around. Leves are about the only thing that generate any substantial amount of *new* money, until the daily quests are introduced at least.

To put things into perspective, I was looking up mats for crafting the green THM scepter for the Relic Reborn quest. Darksteel Nugget was 9900. The stone from WP was 17k. The two Savage Might III materias were 3k each. This stuff will continue to tank as more and more people get their jobs to 50 and flood the market with items. Early on fishing was relatively profitable, but more people have flooded the market with the more desirable items and they've undercut each other. I'm sure this is happening across the board for most gathered items.

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

It's because i went buy crazy on gear early on and also trying to Forbidden Meld materia on to stuff got pretty expensive. There was one point where i was trying to put a Grade III materia on with 24% success rate at 20k a pop and it took me literally over 30 tries. I watched my gil vanish by the 100's of thousands in a kind of ; _ ; face hour.

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No no, I understand where all your money went. I'm just finding it humorous that you entered a market that you had every conceivable advantage in, you have less money than you started with, and it's supposed to be... helpful?

I know you'll compound your money once you clear out your stock, but right now it's basically:

Hey guys, I started with everything 50 and more money than you could make off quests in months and months and look at me now! I'm down 300k gil! Good luck!

13 million on a legacy is like 1.3 million or less on a new server (which is around 75%+ of the current players).

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Originally Posted by CianaIezuborn

I know you'll compound your money once you clear out your stock, but right now it's basically:

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I agree that gil injection needs to be sufficient to cover at the bare minimum, repair costs plus some for those who do not wish to craft or gather. I remember having the same issue in Final Fantasy XI though. For the time being i could only otherwise suggest Boar Hides or other Leather based stuff as you can use battle classes to gather them.

Largely, i'd rather get some Hides from trash mobs in a dungeon than in the Bramble Patch though, and i hope that is updated.

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Originally Posted by Nikki

You are miffed because you do not understand something as simple as that not everyone is into gathering or crafting or playing with market board. People who only love playing say DOW they want a source of GIL generation which suits their game play style.

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But that's just it!

You don't need to adapt your playstyle significantly to make gil, that is what has me miffed. People already go to vendors to sell their junk - because that is how every other MMO works.

If they went to their retainer instead of the vendor, they'd find much of that "trash" loot you obtain when questing is actually quite valuable. Throw it up, stick a price on it and hey presto, you have gold. One of my friends who is allergic to trading and crafting took my advice and started listing stuff instead of junking it and a week later he's up 80,000 gil and only level 25.

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

Preface:

The first few days
I entered early access with 4.3 MILLION gil... I saved this up during 1.0 figuring it would be useful to have a nest egg going into a completely unknown system. Going in, i decided to focus first on Mining and Botany gathering and then look at the Crafting classes. All my crafts and gathers are at level 50.

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Stopped reading after that. Your entire "how-to" revolved around this point.

the tl;dr of this is - I had lots of money at the start, I used it to make more money.

So basically you moved 12 million through the auction house, got it. Really the title should read: "How I removed 1.2 million gil from circulation."

The market is crashing pretty hard right now, most normal gatherable mats are down to 30g, and the unspoiled node mats are 400-700g each.

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Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO

I concur.

I entered balmund as a fresh player come 2.0, with no knowledge of the FFXIV markets nor any capital, just my experience of other MMO economies - knowing this was a legacy server and there'd be players out there with oodles of cash, I immediately looked "up" to see what could be flipped, traded and what opportunities would exist; afterall, if I can start trading with the big boys, then I stand to get into their inflated sub-economy. And indeed I have had no trouble obtaining hundreds of thousands of gil already from a standing start.

So, yeah. When I see the level 50's complaining how totally broke they are and how can they "possibly" afford a mere 5k gil to repair their gear... I'm a little miffed

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Totally not what said people are talking about though, thanks for trying.

OT: I need to level my miner up desperately, just waiting for some leves to start rolling in.

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Originally Posted by Kenze

thats nice for you but none of that would've been possible without that 4.3m you carried over.

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Since there seems to be a majority here who feel this way, i'm going to respond and DISAGREE. Completely i disagree.
I could have done this without going in rich. Absolutely. Granted my Level 50 mining skill helped but i didn't need to buy anything to dig up Grade 3 Carbonized matter. That was going for 1k each on sarg and i could dig up 500 in an hour. I made a killing off it in the first week.

Also, if i had no levels whatsoever, i still could have gone just outside the city and dug up ores. By level 10 or 15 (or whatever level iron is...) i could have sold iron ores for maybe 30-50 gil each, or 4k per stack, and at those levels, repair costs are only a few gil.

Being that, i still agree that there should be more ways to inject gil into the economy for people who don't wish to gather or craft things. At least enough to get by on...

Post edit: In fact, that's a big lesson i learned by week two is that i could have done everything on the gathering, crafting and selling side that i did even if i only had a few thousand gil for repairs going on. Legitimately. If i had been level 1 this whole thing would have taken longer, but i'd still bring in all kinds of gil along the way.