AoE needs to be a widget, sure, shoe-horning jobs into aoe or non-aoe..... really?
I know I would be NOT inviting one or the other...... Instanced get the AoE; free world get the single target dude.
AoE needs to be toggle-able for all applicable WS/Spells IMO.
Remove AOE Toggle
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04-30-2011, 12:43 PMJin_
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04-30-2011, 01:06 PMAvaI'm not really sure what you're saying but, in a game where you can level anything on one character and equip spells cross class, how would this be shoe-horning anyone into anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jin_
Classes could still have both AoE and non AoE, but by giving it sparingly to classes, they open up possibilities of implementing new classes like Scholar that can aoe any spell. Right now, a Scholar would be impossible because anyone can aoe anything already. -
04-30-2011, 02:30 PMReika
Could people get any ruder......
so you're saying you want separate spells that aoe instead of a toggle...
I know how people miss the -ga at the end of higher spells. but think for say Fire II as Fira, and whenever conj is able to get fire III, that is firega. and I know that people miss FFXI and it's seperate -ga spells being the aoe spell while the non-ga spell was the single target. It was ok in XI because skills dont take AC on your action bar, and you could use every spell you have. If they make a dupli-spell for every spell that is an AOE version, you'll find yourself not able to do everything your class is meant to do.. It is already impossible to set every spell in your bar at R50.... -
04-30-2011, 06:37 PMOJtheLIONKing
I could see aoe/single target specialist classes causing issues for players in the aoe/non-aoe content depending on which direction future content goes. Since this is NOT FFXI, and has a finite amount of slots for spells (that already takes a painfully long time to reassign unless you use macros, which should not be required of the average player just to switch classes) I'm against the idea of separating single target/AoE anything. I'm for the idea of an AoE widget though, doesn't have to be huge, just something you can click or select between spells that isn't as intrusive as it is now.
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04-30-2011, 07:24 PMyukikaze_yanagiBecause in a certain 8 year mmo, you dind't have limited space on the action bar AND limited point to set magics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demacia
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04-30-2011, 11:18 PMdarkstarpoet1
i'd just prefer to keep the aoe toggle. yes, i use a controller as well and do have the issue every now and then with having to reach up and click one time with my mouse. i very rarely have aoe off as a mage. 99% of the time aoe is on anyways therefore the single mob spell would be just a waste of space on my bar. what's the use of adding twice the amount of spells if you will never use most of them?
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04-30-2011, 11:36 PMShiyo
If anything, that need to make AOEing spells have a penalty. Increased enmity generation, increased MP cost, etc. Right now it's a thoughtless thing to do in most situations, the only time you have to actually pay attention is if you're nuking/debuffing and it might hit more mobs.
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04-30-2011, 11:37 PMDemacia
Don't see why the macro system couldn't be adjusted to go with this. Imo AoE-everything is part of the reason why DoM are so poorly designed in this game. Especially with healing as you can just spam heals on your party without really worrying about enmity or MP management. Don't think they can't make adjustments to other parts of the game to make something like this work. Really I just hope they rework classes and combat altogether.
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04-30-2011, 11:53 PMShiyoExactly >_< I agree and hope so too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demacia
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05-01-2011, 02:57 AMWevlum
Kinda seperate but at the same time on the AoE theme...It'd be nice if during leves/behest etc your aoe *only* hits the marked targets, i.e. behest/leve targets.