The "Greed" Mentality

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Originally Posted by Coraline

The whole purpose of greed button is to win an item that no one needs. If you need it then hit need other wise greed is up for anyone else just like most mmos.

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Not everyone is one-class-onry.

"Need" in its current form is completely useless. Many people are pushed in to specific roles to fulfil party requirements - just because someone can't press the need button, doesn't mean that person doesn't need the item.

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

Not everyone is one-class-onry.

"Need" in its current form is completely useless. Many people are pushed in to specific roles to fulfil party requirements, that doesn't mean they don't "Need" the gear for their actual "main" class.

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Oh, I get it. This is a "don't roll on MY item, because MY purpose for the item is better than yours!" topic. If you're not playing the class whose item just dropped, you are no better and no different than anyone else who is not playing that class. You do not deserve that item anymore than the other players in the group, regardless of what you want to do with the item.

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

Not everyone is one-class-onry.

"Need" in its current form is completely useless. Many people are pushed in to specific roles to fulfil party requirements, that doesn't mean they don't "Need" the gear for their actual "main" class.

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What do you mean puch to a specific role? Is that with your LS or FC, you can talk and say what you want from the run. On the other hand, if it is using the DF then you are not push in any way you are free to choose the class you want to run with.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

If anyone needs an item to wear, need rolls take priority over greed. Greed rolls only apply if nobody rolls need, and to roll need you must be the appropriate class.

I really don't understand what you're getting at here. Are you saying people taking items nobody wants to wear for turn-ins is bad? You might want to stop playing multiplayer games if something like this bothers you.

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I think TC is crying about losing items that he wants it for his other classes. That means he's a greedy himself and he lost the greedy roll.

I don't think anyone wants to trade rare items for company seals, everyone will play every class eventually and they have all the right to take items for their future classes.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

What do you mean puch to a specific role? Is that with your LS or FC, you can talk and say what you want from the run. On the other hand, if it is using the DF then you are not push in any way you are free to choose the class you want to run with.

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It means he's running dungeons as a tank but wants to roll Need on healer and DPS gear because he think he deserves it more than people who would turn in that gear for GC seals or keep it in their armoury for when they can use it.

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

@People: Stop "Greeding" loot for your level 0 classes. Especially if your sole purpose for that loot is to hand it in for company seals. This is greedy, selfish, and just downright inappropriate.

@SE: Basic need and greed limited by the job you are currently playing doesn't make sense in a game where you can play every job on the same character.

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first off. SE did it right, cause if they allowed anyone to roll need, regardless of class, ninja's would run wild. Second, need is for people who need that gear for the role they are playing and greed is for everyone else's agenda. what do you expect, people to pass and leave it in the chest, or are you that guy who calls prerogative on all plate gear cause your a Murader? Man up snowflake, people need money.

wait...you can hand in loot for seals? WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS!

Imagine someone rolling for much desired XI drops like RDM hat because they need gil, and it vendors for 20k.

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

Not everyone is one-class-onry.

"Need" in its current form is completely useless. Many people are pushed in to specific roles to fulfil party requirements - just because someone can't press the need button, doesn't mean that person doesn't need the item.

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If you cannot need an item, It is NOT for your class (even if you can wear it)

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Originally Posted by Jahaudant

Imagine someone rolling for much desired XI drops like RDM hat because they need gil, and it vendors for 20k.

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Imagine your tank rolling need on every gear in the dungeon because he thinks your use for an item is dumb and he knows better than everyone else.