Avid Vs. Titan (Full Video)

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Originally Posted by TirionCrey

More importantly than anything else...you should re upload the video w/o music, cause SE forbid that. You are only allowed to upload videos that use the in-game music.

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Which would probably be better, because the music the OP added blows....

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Originally Posted by Reika

This fight is really hard as a scholar in the duty finder, a whm and scholar combo it is still extrememly hard to impossible to heal through the stomp waves after the heart goes down. I see why you guys did it with 3 healers, and I think 2 HM could have done better due to the greater AOE healing ability. I think they should tone down the damage of the stomps after the heart dies, or at least not stomp as much if they are going to keep this in the duty finder. Right now i'm in a party server side that is going 3 healer route, and looking for 2 white mages.

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Actually it's not as bad as people think to heal through the Tumults after the Heart Phase with a WHM+SCH combo. (I did the SCH part on this several times).
You just need to have the DDs be on the edge with avoiding unnecesarry damage on the side, so they are at full health when Tumults start. I pop Sacred Soil before Tumults and do a Cycle of Succor, Physick(on MT), Succor and then go back to MT Healing. WHM usually does Medica, Medica 2 and we're good to go.

The way bigger problem after the Heart Phase doing it with 2 Healers is to keep the MT alive during "movement" situations. Especially Bombs, since Titan usually calls the Bombs and then does a Landslide in between their explosions. If you have to move too much during that part as a Healer the MT can go down quickly as hell, especially with a Rockbuster coming. That's why I usually keep most of my Aetherflows during that Phase to pop Lustrate on the tank when neccesarry.
If your DDs are able to avoid most of the damage, it makes it way easier. Cause a lot of times you just can't afford using several heals for the group and let the Tank drop below 50% health.

PS: I don't see Titan going down in the Duty Finder on a regular basis for a while. Most people are just not geared or skilled enough to actually endure the excessive healing needed for it. Once people run around in Itemlvl 80 gear in all slots though, a lot of things will factor in that makes it easier in general. Obviously people will have a decent amount of health more than before, deal more damage and the Tank can survivie longer too.

So should I wait until i have ilvl90 gear with relic weapon to 2-heal an ilvl70 fight? I would see it differently if it was ilvl80 or 90 gear from him. People also go into kill him FOR ilvl80 weapons, relic weapons. Would be very awkward if the fight was balanced to need those to get those.

It is after the heart phase where the biggest problem with 2 healers lies, especially if you don't happened to be grouped with a bard so it can run the MP song. The funny thing is, Titan didn't go RIGHT into 7-8 stomp waves like he did in the duty finder. He started at 5 i believe....

my party with 3 healers, with ilvl60 weapons, came pretty damn close to beating him with 3 healers, just didnt survive well enough :P going at it again tho. The fight is all about survival after the heart, And 4 dps can take the heart out just fine (I help in clerical stance), thats why it should just give us the choice of group 3 healers and 1 tank.

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Originally Posted by Reika

So should I wait until i have ilvl90 gear with relic weapon to 2-heal an ilvl70 fight? I would see it differently if it was ilvl80 or 90 gear from him. People also go into kill him FOR ilvl80 weapons, relic weapons. Would be very awkward if the fight was balanced to need those to get those.

It is after the heart phase where the biggest problem with 2 healers lies, especially if you don't happened to be grouped with a bard so it can run the MP song. The funny thing is, Titan didn't go RIGHT into 7-8 stomp waves like he did in the duty finder. He started at 5 i believe....

my party with 3 healers, with ilvl60 weapons, came pretty damn close to beating him with 3 healers, just didnt survive well enough :P going at it again tho. The fight is all about survival after the heart, And 4 dps can take the heart out just fine (I help in clerical stance), thats why it should just give us the choice of group 3 healers and 1 tank.

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No you shouldn't wait, but you have to expect a lot of "failers" through the Duty Finders. All it takes to get access is Garuda...and people can get Garuda down with AF and itemlvl 50-60 easily. That does not work for Titan. Darklight and Garuda Weapons are more than enough to kill him, people just need the skill...and most people lack that...especially on Duty Finder. Titan is the first actual fight with difficulty to beat. Garuda is a joke compared to him. And most people already have a difficult time to beat Garuda on Duty Finder.

I did get into one duty finder with a relic weapon WHM too, still couldn't do it lol, so IDK. We spammed our aoes on the stomps, but it wasn't enough. I also have garuda's healing book myself.

Finally beat the bastard.... Recognized the pretty easily rememberable pattern with some help and didn't even get touched at the end lol.

And.... Perhaps If I knew that easily rememberable pattern, I could have 2-healed it as I used Sacred Soil right before it did the stops. Reduced the damage by a bit, but still looked to me like we would have died without 3 healers. IDK, i'll try and see what happens.

Thank you for the video