Changes I'd like to see for MRD/WAR

I would love to see Bloodbath changed. Its 25% leech is terrible. It has a great cooldown and length. The leech is just terrible. My non-crit butcher block averages about 200 damage right now. That's a 50hp heal at the end of my combo. If they made it 75% or 100% leech it would be amazing for both tanking and solo. Also same thing with storms path. a 350 crit storms path heals 175hp of my 5.6k health pool.

Bloodbath is kind of crappy, it was good for a few levels and then just stopped being so great. I'm not sure if Fracture even does anything/is worth having on your action bar. I agree that Mercy Stroke's damage is paltry and pathetic, but you probably shouldn't be scoring a killing blow on a Boss with it.

I don't really have a problem with holding aggro unless dps are braindead and splitting targets. Which even still, is not impossible to get a hold on but puts more strain on the healer.

I'd like to see Flash or Overpower off GCD. Maybe Steel Cyclone could cost less Wrath.

Also concerning abilities off GCD, I have to hit them a couple times to get them to work and that is pretty frustrating. Games doing better than it was in p3, but still has responsiveness issues that need to be addressed.

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Originally Posted by Djblakblak

I would love to see Bloodbath changed. Its 25% leech is terrible. It has a great cooldown and length. The leech is just terrible. My non-crit butcher block averages about 200 damage right now. That's a 50hp heal at the end of my combo. If they made it 75% or 100% leech it would be amazing for both tanking and solo. Also same thing with storms path. a 350 crit storms path heals 175hp of my 5.6k health pool.

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You shouldn't be looking at the contributions of Bloodbath from a single attack. The buff lasts for a full 30 seconds and has only a 90 second CD. While it's not *burst* healing, so that you need to use it *before* you get hit super friggin' hard, the healing it provides stacks up, assuming you're actually using it. It's best to not think of it so much as a real tank CD but rather as a regularly used ability to counteract our lack of a shield.

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Originally Posted by Quor

Unchained. I get that animations are awesome, and I've come to terms with them interrupting quick-use of more than one off-GCD skill, but for something like Unchained, which has a decent cooldown and high usage cost, it's particularly noticeable. Adding another two seconds to the duration would be a great way to deal with this issue that doesn't involve messing with character animations. This way you can stack Unchained with Berserk and actually get the full 20s out of Berserk instead of clipping an attack at the end of the duration because of the Pacification debuff.

Any other WARs out there have suggestions? From what I've gleaned from the forums, either things are pretty good or things are terrible. I'm not at the level cap yet, so I won't speak to anything regarding that area of the game.

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it is necessary for unchained to require 5stacks of wrath to use, but it should not use up the 5 stacks of wrath.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

You shouldn't be looking at the contributions of Bloodbath from a single attack. The buff lasts for a full 30 seconds and has only a 90 second CD. While it's not *burst* healing, so that you need to use it *before* you get hit super friggin' hard, the healing it provides stacks up, assuming you're actually using it. It's best to not think of it so much as a real tank CD but rather as a regularly used ability to counteract our lack of a shield.

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not it doesnt, i might help when you are solo or killing some lv 30mobs, but in endgame situation, 50~100 heal per hit is just pathetic, and its purely unless its comboed with berserk then double inner beast.

I think the Warrior is in a good spot, but there needs to be more cross-class abilities, specifically Defensive Cooldowns. I'm currently using Featherfoot from the Pugilist class, but the 15% evasion bonus honestly does not do much. I would like to see the Lancer's Keen Flurry ability cross over into the Warrior job, rather than just Gladiator and Marauder classes.

And seeing as how the Warrior is a Parry Tank (whereas the Paladin is a Block Tank), Keen Flurry just makes complete sense to have as a Warrior who is tanking in any situation.

Changes I'd like to see, part 1:

Change: Defiance's 15% incoming heal potency should be on all the time.
Reason: The PLD's Shield Oath works in all situations.

Change: Allow Steel Cyclone to absorb 300% of damage into health.
Reason: The PLD's shield block scales with multiple targets. Inner Beast and Storm's Path does not scale with multiple targets. The WAR needs an AoE ability that scales with multiple targets. Did I mention multiple targets?

Change: Give targets struck by Mercy Stroke a 10s debuff. When the target dies while under the debuff, the user gains 20% health.
Reason: Mercy Stroke isn't going to kill anything in dungeons if it only hurts 1-2% of a target's health. Teammates would have killed the target before its health is low enough.

Change: Give Inner Beast a stun effect.
Reason: PLDs can interrupt a lot more often with Shield Bash and Spirits Within.

Changes I'd like to see, part 2:
Change: Allow Vengeance to absorb 300% of the damage into health.
Reason: This gives the Warrior another minor defensive cooldown. And unlike our other healing skills, this one scales with multiple targets.

Change: Allow Unchained to also restore 400 TP.
Reason: Our abilities cost more TP than PLD abilities. We need a way to restore our TP for emergencies.

Change: Increase Bloodbath's base duration to 30s. Change the trait to allow Bloodbath to heal the entire raid everytime you deal damage.
Reason: We need a cooldown to help out the party. Its no where near as powerful as the PLD's Cover, but unlike Cover, it also helps the user.

inner beast has to give a 300% dmg absorbing shield as well as the heal.

or hell, 300% dmg shield alone is better than the heal.

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Originally Posted by Kerrath

Disagree. Lack of a taunt makes threat management challenging and by extension fun.

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Except that leads to a lack of interesting encounter mechanics that require multiple tanks. If both tanks don't have a taunt, that means you can't implement the plethora of mechanics that require tank swaps (debuffs that force tank swaps, abilities that temporarily remove one tank from the fight and require the second tank to take over), you can't use actual hate resets, much less target swapping in encounters with multiple boss-level targets.

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Originally Posted by hola

inner beast has to give a 300% dmg absorbing shield as well as the heal.

or hell, 300% dmg shield alone is better than the heal.

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THIS.