Fates

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Originally Posted by Optimo

Personally, I'd have to agree with the OP that FATE zerging is not my ideal way to level and I doubt that SE intended the player base to travel like locusts from fate to fate. Fortunately SE has implemented myriad alternatives to character advancement (quests, leves, dungeons, grinding, etc.) You can't argue with efficiency though, and I'll take FATE zerging over the 1.0 system where xp/sp was rewarded based upon battle performance. But I was pretty damn good at heal sniping :-)

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I don't really mind that players level this way. I just wish the way I want to level was just as efficient as zerging fates. But its not, so no one will ever even want to do anything besides fates. That is the problem. IMO Fate pop frequency should be looked into to discourage hordes of people just standing around waiting for the next fate to pop.

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Originally Posted by Odinsworn

If you don't like fates, don't use them. I actually find them enjoyable and when there is a good group the banter can be pretty amusing.

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"If you don't like one of the best sources of exp in the game, don't do it." You're basically telling people not to utilize one of the key ways of leveling up since not even dungeons are as good as FATES.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

personally i find zerging the same tiny monster in groups of 6 1000s of times to be more disgusting.

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Which is exactly what you do in the majority of the FATES, especially the ones people party for, don't even try to deny it.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

"If you don't like one of the best sources of exp in the game, don't do it." You're basically telling people not to utilize one of the key ways of leveling up since not even dungeons are as good as FATES.

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and?

You better believe if I didn't like fates I wouldn't do it. Granted it would take longer to level but so what.

I dont mind if people level that way, while personally i just want to do them because to experience the Fate itself. There are many different ones, with different mechanics and objectives. What i find seriously annoying is being in a Fate and having Fun and 100+ People running into it, zerging everything down. <_<

About most of those people you will see Threads about how bad they play; no wonder when hack & slash is all they did from 1 to 50. Having it as an option is totally fine, but using it as the main-source is something i would like SE to change. A Exp Cap per day from each Fate or w/e else. That's just my point of view tho.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

personally i find zerging the same tiny monster in groups of 6 1000s of times to be more disgusting.

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I personally love the challenge of trying to beat the zerg to claims and then letting the zerg get exp for me.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Which is exactly what you do in the majority of the FATES, especially the ones people party for, don't even try to deny it.

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Sorry but you are wrong and I will deny it. Killing 1 mob type for hours is boring and mind numbing. Running fates can actually be enjoyable. You get to fight different types of mobs, even some boss ones show up and becomes a mini raid of sorts. There are various objectives to different FATEs and things to keep them fresh. There is a variety, even if it is repeating them, it is still far more enjoyable than "stand in 1 spot. pull 1 mob. kill it. repeat" over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over... get it?

Sorry, but the Lv50's in lv20 gear show why fate leveling is horrendous.

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Originally Posted by Nero

I dont mind if people level that way, while personally i just want to do them because to experience the Fate itself. There are many different ones, with different mechanics and objectives. What i find seriously annoying is being in a Fate and having Fun and 100+ People running into it, zerging everything down. <_<

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My sentiment exactly.

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Which is exactly what you do in the majority of the FATES, especially the ones people party for, don't even try to deny it.

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Except I will deny it, because you aren't fighting just one kind of monster 100s of times for hours to gain one level. No, fates are much more varied than that. You fight different things in different places and there are tons of people, not 6. Fighting savara is nothing like fighting robber crab #947, #948, #949... in the same spot.

To be honest the only thing I really dislike about FATES are the ones involving one huge strong enemy, which basically boils down to 200 people hitting a target that may or may not suddenly disappear for a few seconds for a few minutes without really having any idea about what's going on and then getting gold medal for it.