Ifrit-Egi makes me sad

I am happy with the size and look of the Egi. It makes sense to not have giant massive summons running around, because of the lore surrounding them in this world. I honestly would not want to have to gather vast amounts of element appropriate crystals and tons of dead bodies. Just to summon 1 primal and also as others have said. It cuts down on area clutter that is already filled with massive splash effects from player/enemy abilities.

I had the same exact feelings as Trayes. I hit 21 on my Arcanist and saw someone running around with Ifrit. My heart just sank. These Egis are like a slap in the face. This is by far the worst version of a Summoner in an FF game. This is what the summons have been reduced to? I just don't get it.

FFXI came out in 2002. Over 10 years ago. This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ZJ3RMy7xQ Looks 10x better than the crap in this game.

Summoner is supposed to be job where you are controlling badass summons. FFXI avatars made you feel powerful. The size of them was balanced by having a constant mana drain while you had them out. So, you couldn't just run around with them 24/7. Plus all of the Bloodpacts(Avatar abilities) used tons of mana. They could have done something similar in this.

I don't think anyone is saying they need to be insanely large, but my god, the models are terrible as well. FFXI Avatars were just a smaller version of the original, why not here?

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Originally Posted by Trayes

I just saw Titan... I have never been so let down by a SUMMONER... These things look like the old water spirits/earth spirits. Just floating mini elements of lame.

Sorry if it seems like I am upset but I didn't not want to play a Pokemon Trainer. I wanted to play a Summoner. Someone who calls on these great and powerful creatures to do their bidding.

On a side note... I think my house cat can take Titan/Ifrit in a fight. I would put money on it.

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You say "Someone who calls on these great and powerful creatures to do their bidding" You are missing the point of what a SUMMONER is. Summoners call forth essence or their "Pure" form they are not ACTUAL primals but their energy they won't LOOK big or what they normally are because if you summoned them then *gasp* they would try and temper you and then you're screwed lol read the story and the lore and you'll actually understand why this is.
However on a side note titan and garuda are kinda meh

I think it's a pretty natural reaction to Summoners in this game given Final Fantasy's past. Yeah, lore wise they have set up summoners to be less flashy than they are in the past, but I think it's a pretty natural response. Summons are one of the defining features of Final Fantasy and going from Knights of the Round to a floating boulder might disappoint some people.

I think the size of them is perfect as I've seen them in-game and if they were any bigger they would just add to the amount of clutter that already exists in the game. Let alone imagine fates at level 50 where there are going to be tons of these things running around. I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of the other primal-egis that I hope come in later patches.

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Originally Posted by Trayes

I just saw Titan... I have never been so let down by a SUMMONER... These things look like the old water spirits/earth spirits. Just floating mini elements of lame.

Sorry if it seems like I am upset but I didn't not want to play a Pokemon Trainer. I wanted to play a Summoner. Someone who calls on these great and powerful creatures to do their bidding.

On a side note... I think my house cat can take Titan/Ifrit in a fight. I would put money on it.

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You're cat is a pussy :cool:

I get the part with the pet. But i only like ifrit and he is still dissapointing. I think the pet design looks like crap! And the size is not a problem. It works in rift and any other game with human sized compannions. For example the chocobo is 4 times the size of ifrit!

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Originally Posted by Inosaska

I think the size of them is perfect as I've seen them in-game and if they were any bigger they would just add to the amount of clutter that already exists in the game. Let alone imagine fates at level 50 where there are going to be tons of these things running around. I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of the other primal-egis that I hope come in later patches.

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ehm u can use your choco as pet , imagine fates at lvl 50 with tons of these chocobos running around ......add minions too since every1 is running around with 1.

but lets put poor models and little pets for summoners because ???? , i dont want to summon the primal because lorewise makes no sense , and we all get that , what we dont understand is why use this "designs" , titan is a floating rock for gods sake......and garuda looks like has 3 polygons......

the problem is summoner has always summoned the primal/esper/gaurdian wtfe you wanna call them and it was badass. now they just down graded them to pokemon and people are upset. summoners have always been really awsome. yuna would have been lame if she summoned the "ifrit" egi thats in this game i mean you really think she could of killed sin with this bs flame elemental thing they wanna call ifrit. hell no.

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Originally Posted by Celoth

I get the part with the pet. But i only like ifrit and he is still dissapointing. I think the pet design looks like crap! And the size is not a problem. It works in rift and any other game with human sized compannions. For example the chocobo is 4 times the size of ifrit!

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Rift 1.0 pets looked terrible. Only recently did they get a makeover. The human sized pets look out of place imo.