Scholar. Will it be the next WHM?

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Originally Posted by Namae

Its not surprising at all, considering Arcanist is the newest class in the game, and anyone who has played it in B4 knows how broken Topaz Carbuncle is
Id love to see some nerfs already on release date, but we will see
Anway, I hate pet classes, always the same broken crap in every game... Playing an Arcanist in this game so far feels like cheating pretty much, since you can do everything
And there goes my 3rd daily post, with more ACN rage... The nerfs cant come soon enough

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Topaz is only "broken" if the people playing glad/marauder are very badly geared or have no idea how to play, many people have posted that if you keep your gear up to date and know how to play the class you never lose threat to him, and don't get started on all the other lies that people spread about on the beta forums.

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Originally Posted by Namae

No, Topaz is broken because you dont even NEED a tank anymore... I know, I tried it myself, tanked through Tam Tara and Copperbell with it without tank in the party, and he never came close to dying
The bottomline is Arcanist doubles as Tank AND healer, meaning you could go into a dungeon with 1x ACN + 3x THM and completely wreck stuff... Why bother wasting 2 party slots with a tank and a healer?
Yes, its low level content, but it still shouldnt be like that

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Lancer and Pug can tank low level content too, so by your logic those 2 classes should be nerfed too. So again stop spewing out things you have little understanding about. You can do dungeons with 3x lancer and conjurer and clear stuff faster than any party set up with arcanists.

well even if SCH got 10% damage reduction, it doesnt mean they have overpower.. for example protect on SCH dont have magic dmg reduction - its kinda that way work.. I dont see it overpower..

Sacred soil is a ground target AoE to apply the 10% dmg reduction, there will be plenty of fights were people will either have to spread out or keep running away from ground circles so it's overall effectiveness "may" be reduced. Plus it needs Aetherflow effect which is also required to use lustrate and energy drain.

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Originally Posted by Namae

Sacred Soil reduces dmg by 10%, not 90%...

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True. I did misread it. Wishful thinking I guess. But combine Sacred Soil, Eye for an Eye, and Adloquium and you get a huge amount of health protection that causes almost no hp drain for many seconds. This is mostly useful for big hitting enemies or when there's a lot of them in a pull.

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Originally Posted by Namae

anyone who has played it in B4 knows how broken Topaz Carbuncle is Id love to see some nerfs already on release date

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I don't know how you could judge Topaz Carby as broken. I used it in Halatali just for kicks and though he had 200hp more than our Maurader, he lost it faster and easier on trash pulls making it a mana sponge for healers. I desummoned it when I saw that my DPS was handicapped because I was helping healing it. I've run Halatali a lot during beta as a healer because i leveled CNJ to 35 on both Ultros server and Gilgamesh x 2(for P3 and P4) and from my abundant amount of sampling, the topaz carbuncle is assuredly not as good a tank as real players who have better defense stats. Yes, they can survive some fights if you spam heals on them, but that doesn't mean they are at all efficient. You are fooling yourself if you think so.

I figure I may as well ask this here, instead of making a thread about it (and the fact that I can't... I don't understand why SE loves making thread restrictions.)

Arcanist is the only class that can have two jobs. With every other class, they each get their own individual points when they level up. How will it work with the Scholar/Summoner? If I put all my points as an Arcanist into Intelligence for a Summoner, what happens if I also want to play as a Scholar? Will the Scholar have it's own set of points when you switch to it, or will the Scholar be stuck with the points I had put into Intel as an Arcanist when I had a Summoner in mind?

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Originally Posted by peaches

If I put all my points as an Arcanist into Intelligence for a Summoner, what happens if I also want to play as a Scholar? Will the Scholar have it's own set of points when you switch to it, or will the Scholar be stuck with the points I had put into Intel as an Arcanist when I had a Summoner in mind?

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If you drop all your points in to INT on arcanist both the summoner and scholar will have the bonus points towards intelligence. There will be respec items to reset the points but it's not something you will be able to "spam" to change it around quickly. While scholar does need mind to increase it's healing potency it also needs a little bit of int for it's dots still (as doing both healing and dotting is a scholar's job) and for energy drain's damage (thus leading towards the amount of MP this move restores). Now i'm not saying you'll be fine dumping everything in to INT for both classes, but it's just something to keep in mind.

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Originally Posted by Glide

From the last podcast:
Q7: Will the arcanist’s attribute points be shared between summoner and scholar?

A7: No, they will not be shared.

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You might want to check the subtitled video he corrects himself saying he made a mistake and they are shared.

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Q: Will the arcanist's attribute points be shared between summoner and scholar?
A: They will be shared. Up until level 50 the equipment has stats that support both. Summoners will focus on INT, while scholars will focus on MND; however, this is because their roles are different as one is a DPS and the other is a healer. After level 50, you will have to select which you would like to specialize in by selecting the appropriate equipment.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/64478

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Originally Posted by Rillifane

If you drop all your points in to INT on arcanist both the summoner and scholar will have the bonus points towards intelligence. There will be respec items to reset the points but it's not something you will be able to "spam" to change it around quickly. While scholar does need mind to increase it's healing potency it also needs a little bit of int for it's dots still (as doing both healing and dotting is a scholar's job) and for energy drain's damage (thus leading towards the amount of MP this move restores). Now i'm not saying you'll be fine dumping everything in to INT for both classes, but it's just something to keep in mind.

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From the last podcast:
Q7: Will the arcanist’s attribute points be shared between summoner and scholar?

A7: No, they will not be shared.

Does anyone know if the arcanist will be able to que as a healer for dungeons up to 35? i know in Beta 4 they could not was hoping it changed

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Originally Posted by Namae

No, Topaz is broken because you dont even NEED a tank anymore... I know, I tried it myself, tanked through Tam Tara and Copperbell with it without tank in the party, and he never came close to dying
The bottomline is Arcanist doubles as Tank AND healer, meaning you could go into a dungeon with 1x ACN + 3x THM and completely wreck stuff... Why bother wasting 2 party slots with a tank and a healer?
Yes, its low level content, but it still shouldnt be like that

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I tanked Halatali up to the last boss with topaz carby, whm, and dd. the tank disconnected and never returned. I probably could have tanked the last boss too but a tank showed up for us then. I agree its kind of silly how easy it was.

Not seeing any validity to the OP cries. You're basically on Succor I spam until 50 while relying on pet AI to cover all the rest. Has anyone here ever played an MMO where you have to rely on a fragile, DESTRUCTIBLE pet that responds to commands slowly to cover the bulk of your healing?

In the Primals of Eorzea video they released there is a scene where they zoom in on a Scholar during the Behemoth fight. Behemoth does an AoE and the next thing you see is the Scholar having to stop immediately and start resummoning. Imagine losing the bulk of your healing arsenal when you need it the most. Think about it.