Crafting

The grind is insane once you hit 41 or so. I just hit 46 leather and its taking SO LONG to get to 50 :X

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Originally Posted by Jibe

The grind is insane once you hit 41 or so. I just hit 46 leather and its taking SO LONG to get to 50 :X

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Grind is insane but worth it, I have a feeling there will not be as many high level crafters in XIV as there was in XI. One thing we need to do is band together to ensure prices stay profitable for us in the long term and not worry about the short term gains.

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Originally Posted by Jibe

The grind is insane once you hit 41 or so. I just hit 46 leather and its taking SO LONG to get to 50 :X

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which is why i stopped caring about the penalty to sp myself.

at some point you just gotta up and eat the penalty when you overdo it each week.

My rule of thumb


1) If the mats are rare or too expensive, DO NOT grind into fatigue
2) If the mats are cheap as hell(weaving) who cares how bad it gets just keep going!
3) If the penalty gets too bad(40-50%) around that time youve been at it too long, time to switch

Whenever I hit surplus I always stop. I just can't stand that lost SP. I just switch to another class, which is probably the reason its taking me so long to hit 50.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

which is why i stopped caring about the penalty to sp myself.

at some point you just gotta up and eat the penalty when you overdo it each week.

My rule of thumb


1) If the mats are rare or too expensive, DO NOT grind into fatigue
2) If the mats are cheap as hell(weaving) who cares how bad it gets just keep going!
3) If the penalty gets too bad(40-50%) around that time youve been at it too long, time to switch

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Thats a good philosophy but keep in mind 999 shards is 220k give or take a few k Do you really want to grind into SP when your using 6000 shards a level?

Actually, whats annoying too is that as we approach 50 we have no recipes that are above rank 50. So that means we are stuck grinding something 1 or 2 ranks above us for not much sp. In FF11 they had recipes that were above the maximum level you could reach, which would help us out here so we can get good sp as we approach cap.

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Thats a good philosophy but keep in mind 999 shards is 220k give or take a few k Do you really want to grind into SP when your using 6000 shards a level?

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shards are 110k a stack or so now on Besaid so its not really an issue for me
add in as i said, how the grind works for the most part


right now im doing carpentry for instance, lets look at what it costs me

Yew masks(400 of them) today I will do

the logs cost me 3000 each. The shards for each log cost me another 1000, so 1000 per lumber is the cost basicaly

now that lumber takes very few shards, so it brings my price per mask up to 1400.....
guess how much masks vendor for? around 1400

i spend NOTHING, so why not grind it into the ground?


as for my weaving, i actualy profit selling the cloth im making, so again, shard cost doesnt factor in.


Now in other crafts like LW(where the toadskins are too expensive) i tend to stop when i hit fatigue, but im also not focusing it up yet, when i do, i wont care anymore again(especialy when im past toad and the mats are cheaper)

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Originally Posted by Jibe

Actually, whats annoying too is that as we approach 50 we have no recipes that are above rank 50. So that means we are stuck grinding something 1 or 2 ranks above us for not much sp. In FF11 they had recipes that were above the maximum level you could reach, which would help us out here so we can get good sp as we approach cap.

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This is an issue with some crafts more then others, in some its not bad
in others its horrible

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

Now in other crafts like LW(where the toadskins are too expensive) i tend to stop when i hit fatigue, but im also not focusing it up yet, when i do, i wont care anymore again(especialy when im past toad and the mats are cheaper)

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You don't really get past toad. You do start fleece at rank 36 or so, but once you hit 42, BAM you are back to toad for the duration. Brown toad vamps are basically the path from 42-50. There are some other finish items you can make but they take alot of mats and to me don't seem worth it. Luckily it's pretty easy to farm toad skins if you have a rank 45 or so combat class.

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Originally Posted by Jibe

You don't really get past toad. You do start fleece at rank 36 or so, but once you hit 42, BAM you are back to toad for the duration. Brown toad vamps are basically the path from 42-50. There are some other finish items you can make but they take alot of mats and to me don't seem worth it. Luckily it's pretty easy to farm toad skins if you have a rank 45 or so combat class.

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ive found you can take hog to 50 also