Western developers are engineers, Japanese developers are artists.
It really shows.
Was the code in this game optimized for a PS3?
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04-07-2011, 09:46 PMBetelgeuzah
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04-07-2011, 10:12 PMVackashkenDing ding ding! Winner!Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
One thing which really isn't addressed here is the lack of communication. Every software Engineer understands communication is the most important part of a project. US "lazy" Americans excel in programming, engineering and understand the astronomical importance of communication.
A major reason this game is utterly fried is from a total lack of communication between costumers and more importantly in this aspect between the branches of designers making the game. Perhaps the new gen of people doing games in Japan nowadays are realizing this since Yoshi (shockingly for Japanese business practices) admitted there was a total lack of communication between departments. -
04-07-2011, 10:22 PMElexiaReally? Have you even played many Japanese PC games? Clearly you haven't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinko
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04-07-2011, 10:25 PMEvangelaI knew... you hurt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elexia
cuz you're one of them LOL
you need 2 months to change a single value, you're one of the programmer who get caught in a time warp -
04-07-2011, 10:26 PMCairdeas
Ram is acutally a non-issue in most cases with the PS3 structure. Just ask Naughty dog they don't use very much of it but the entire game of Uncharted 2 loads up in less then seconds. Because If I understand it correctly they use one of the data channels in the Cell Processor to act as a memory buffer.
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04-07-2011, 10:26 PMBetelgeuzahHow many engineers do you see communicating with the customers? Yeah...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vackashken
This tells us nothing about their communication in-house nor outside it. -
04-07-2011, 10:29 PMCairdeasWell-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
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04-07-2011, 10:31 PMVackashkenActually he (Yoshi) has commented several times on both (the lack of communication between departments AND the player base) aside from the notorious nature of Japanese companies. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
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04-07-2011, 10:35 PMJennestiaYou seem like the only person hurt here judging by how you decided to belittle her, which her point is accurate, Square Enix =/= all of Japan and it's a sweeping generalization to say we don't know how to make PC games because most of the indie scene in Japan is PC gaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evangela
Ram actually is an issue, it's not a stopping block type of issue but the setup is much different from working with say the PS2 or 360 which threw a lot of developers for a loop the early years on working with the PS3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
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04-07-2011, 10:37 PMBetelgeuzahWhat are you even talking about? Good for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
And you think this is because Japanese developers are artists instead of engineers? Goddamn.Quote:
Actually he (Yoshi) has commented several times on both (the lack of communication between departments AND the player base) aside from the notorious nature of Japanese companies.
As if it didn't have anything to do with the culture differences, nope. Artists are close minded, engineers are communicative. That's how it must be. "Japanese are not xenophobic and closed as a culture while Americans aren't good at PR". You can even see that this isn't the case with our community reps (who are engineers, no doubt!). The JP reps speak less and are more formal, the U.S reps communicate a lot more often.