Midgardsormr and the Airship in Mor Dhona!

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Originally Posted by Alaltus

I'm hoping Migardsormr and the agrius will still be there, though what will happen with Agrius if it is? It's weaponry is still functional judging by the end of the original 1.0 questline.

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What? The end of the 1.0 main quest line you encounter Gaius, but he has his own fleet of airships and Juggernauts unrelated to the Agrius.

Agrius is a heap of metal, mate.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

What? The end of the 1.0 main quest line you encounter Gaius, but he has his own fleet of airships and Juggernauts unrelated to the Agrius.

Agrius is a heap of metal, mate.

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The blast comes from the Agrius. The Agrius is behind him, he fires a flare, the Agrius opens fire. The blast comes from it's silhouette? not sure if thats the right word.

Edit: I had to prove myself wrong ^^';; yeah theres a silhouette sticking out of the Agrius/Midgardsormr silhouette that i'm guessing is a battleship lining up infront of it.

http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/a...YnRRqxinZ0.jpg

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Originally Posted by Alaltus

The blast comes from the Agrius. The Agrius is behind him, he fires a flare, the Agrius opens fire. The blast comes from it's silhouette? not sure if thats the right word.

Edit: I had to prove myself wrong ^^';; yeah theres a silhouette sticking out of the Agrius/Midgardsormr silhouette that i'm guessing is a battleship lining up infront of it.

http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/a...YnRRqxinZ0.jpg

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And here I was putting together screenshots as well, lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../airship-1.png

Ahh awesome so we know what kind of ship it was! =)

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

And here I was putting together screenshots as well, lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../airship-1.png

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Haha up until this point I had always thought he had reactivated some of the Agrius' systems.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I don't think they'd remove something that everyone in the game went to take screenshots with at one time or another... at least I don't think they would. That concept art with a destroyed Isghgard-looking thing makes me nervous, but the new bestiary entries say the wyverns are on the front lines attacking them so I guess the city is still there.

I wonder if they built that Rapture bar I tried to rally for! (lol)

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According to a dev post from when that image was posted and people were translating its caption as "destroyed ishgard", the dev pointed out that the destroyed structure was an Ishgardian fortess rather than the city-state itself. So I think Ishgard itself is probably okay, it's just that the climate's been changed drastically from chilly highlands to like...Greenland. (...greenland's pretty tundra-y, right?)

On the subject of Midgardsormr, I'm...actually surprised he's still there? Like the entire battle of Carteneau took place RIGHT WHERE HE WAS and yet his corpse didn't get megaflare'd? ...this is gonna sound weird, but is it possible that maybe Bahamut deliberately missed the corpse/juggernaut because Midgardsormr (as far as i remember) was a pretty high-ranking dragon? I forget the whole dragon/wyrm hierarchy thing but i think Midgardsormr was pretty high up there.

One last thing that's been bugging me--someone brought up the fact that before ARR, everyone and their mom said that Gridania was going to get hit the hardest with the Calamity and become completely different. Where did that even come from? Was it just an assumption because Gridania was close to Mor Dhona/the occupied Ala Mhigo? Or did someone actually say that in-game? Because honestly, Gridania didn't even get hit that hard with what we've seen of ARR's Black Shroud...it still looks pretty shroud-y. (which i'm happy for) although i think they said there were going to be more desolate-looking parts of the Shroud the deeper in you went and we just haven't seen those yet? maybe it's that?

The black shroud 1.0 or the forest of rock walls wasn't very popular so. Not sure how early they said they would be making changes to the shroud landscape wise officially.

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Originally Posted by Fleurette

One last thing that's been bugging me--someone brought up the fact that before ARR, everyone and their mom said that Gridania was going to get hit the hardest with the Calamity and become completely different. Where did that even come from? Was it just an assumption because Gridania was close to Mor Dhona/the occupied Ala Mhigo? Or did someone actually say that in-game? Because honestly, Gridania didn't even get hit that hard with what we've seen of ARR's Black Shroud...it still looks pretty shroud-y. (which i'm happy for) although i think they said there were going to be more desolate-looking parts of the Shroud the deeper in you went and we just haven't seen those yet? maybe it's that?

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One of the only known areas we cannot yet access in the Black Shroud is the area occupied by the Sylvans, aka the purple-tinted Sylphs who worship Ramuh and hate everybody else.

As for desolation, check out North Shroud area, west of the Fallgourd Float aetheryte.

It was one of those Evidence A + Quote B = Rigid Interpretation C kind of things. (The same kind of thing that led me to believe the sylphs were referring to physical changes in the beast tribes that summoned primals, which of course led to hiccups with some interpretations because the Ixal have been physically changing as a result of Garuda's influence for far longer than they've actually been summoning her.)

Evidence A
Both NPCs and the local introduction story arc made it seem like the Empire, being just outside their doorstep at Ala Mhigo, were going to move on Gridania next (and they were planning on fighting back).

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Whenever 2.0's world revamp came up, one of the first things mentioned was the shroud, which everyone hated navigating due the constraints rigid options. It took forever, and gave some of us FFO veterans flashbacks... I could practically smell Yhoator outside Gridania.

Rigid Interpretation C
The Empire is coming, they're going to hit Gridania really hard, we're going to have a better forest in the end.

Luckily we get a whole new world, instead!

I doubt Bahamut missed on purpose. The game didn't go out of its way to show this, but Mor Dhona and Cartenau aren't that close. Silvertear Lake itself, where Midgardsormr's corpse lays, is far enough away to be outside of the big attack, provided it was missed by debris (which it seems to have been).

http://ffxivmaps.com/img/world-map-official-large.jpg

Cartenau Flats is pretty far southwest of the lake inside Mor Dhona. In fact, Cartenau is as far away from Silvertear Lake as Ul'dah is from Cartenau.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

It was one of those Evidence A + Quote B = Rigid Interpretation C kind of things. (The same kind of thing that led me to believe the sylphs were referring to physical changes in the beast tribes that summoned primals, which of course led to hiccups with some interpretations because the Ixal have been physically changing as a result of Garuda's influence for far longer than they've actually been summoning her.)

Evidence A
Both NPCs and the local introduction story arc made it seem like the Empire, being just outside their doorstep at Ala Mhigo, were going to move on Gridania next (and they were planning on fighting back).

Quote B
Whenever 2.0's world revamp came up, one of the first things mentioned was the shroud, which everyone hated navigating due the constraints rigid options. It took forever, and gave some of us FFO veterans flashbacks... I could practically smell Yhoator outside Gridania.

Rigid Interpretation C
The Empire is coming, they're going to hit Gridania really hard, we're going to have a better forest in the end.

Luckily we get a whole new world, instead!

I doubt Bahamut missed on purpose. The game didn't go out of its way to show this, but Mor Dhona and Cartenau aren't that close. Silvertear Lake itself, where Midgardsormr's corpse lays, is far enough away to be outside of the big attack, provided it was missed by debris (which it seems to have been).

Cartenau Flats is pretty far southwest of the lake inside Mor Dhona. In fact, Cartenau is as far away from Silvertear Lake as Ul'dah is from Cartenau.

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Aha! That makes a little more sense, then. Thanks, Mr. Moose!

Also, yeah, now that I'm looking at the map I realize how far Carteneau was from Mor Dhona/Silvertear Lake. For some reason I'd always assumed Carteneau was a part of Mor Dhona itself, probably because of how it was implied in-game and because i thought they wanted to have kind of a "full-circle"-esque effect where it all started at Silvertear Skies, and it'd end in the same area. But seeing how far away it is, yeah, Bahamut probably didn't even want to bother with the Silvertear area. (for lack of better phrasing. :P)