About ARR release.

OK for having a good guess just use 1.xx vers, how long is the Beta phases til retail????!!!! (close beta) >>>> { open beta } >>>>> (retail )

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Originally Posted by namasy

OK for having a good guess just use 1.xx vers, how long is the Beta phases til retail????!!!! (close beta) >>>> { open beta } >>>>> (retail )

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Yeah that's not how stuff works.

The beta phase could take three weeks it could take nine months.

It all depends on their progress and how their playerbase feels about things. They also said they're over 2 months behind.

I know I'll be there for ARR, whenever that is, and so are my friends. If you do care for this game and friends and progress you've done, I don't see why you wouldn't log back in at re-launch. It might be a long wait, but needless to say, we saw how great the rushed original launch was. I'd much rather wait if that means that the game won't be requiring lots of patches and fixing.

Going through the Live Letter IV questions and answers...they said this week there will be no alpha testing to fix an issue with the severe lag when 800+ characters are in the same area. So now the testing is yet another week behind.

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Originally Posted by Rex

Going through the Live Letter IV questions and answers...they said this week there will be no alpha testing to fix an issue with the severe lag when 800+ characters are in the same area. So now the testing is yet another week behind.

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How is alpha a week behind? it going to take amount of time to fix each phase before they start a new one so it's not behind there just fixing issue. You think they can start the next testing without adding new stuff and fixing issue the players found? i mean that the point of the alpha/beta to start with lol.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

How is alpha a week behind? it going to take amount of time to fix each phase before they start a new one so it's not behind there just fixing issue.

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*Sigh.* Meaning, because of this issue, the alpha test window of operation is lasting longer.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IV-Q-A-Updates

Q27: When can overseas players join the Alpha Test?
A27: The first phase of the Alpha Test has been completed, and we have managed to solve almost all of the issues when player numbers increase. We've made it possible to safely run the game with 800 people in a single area, but once it the area exceeds 800 people we've seen some heavy lag. Next week will not have an Alpha Test and we'll be focusing on fixing this. The week after if we are able to hold five days of tests with no issues, we will open Alpha globally on 11/26.

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Originally Posted by Kallivis

If they screw up this time, it's game over. I will wait as long as possible until they (Square Enix) decide the game is perfect. Not ok, not good, not great, but perfect.

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The game is never going to be perfect.
Perfect is not achievable state - there will always be something wrong that needs to be tweaked and something that a certain group of people wont like.

In my opinnion 5 months is quite long considering what we have seen so far looks already pretty "ready" so to speak.
I doubt they will have 5 months for BETA, I am thinking maybe 1-2 months of BETA max and then release. So I think the game will be out April-May time the latest.

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Originally Posted by Rex

*Sigh.* Meaning, because of this issue, the alpha test window of operation is lasting longer.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IV-Q-A-Updates

Q27: When can overseas players join the Alpha Test?
A27: The first phase of the Alpha Test has been completed, and we have managed to solve almost all of the issues when player numbers increase. We've made it possible to safely run the game with 800 people in a single area, but once it the area exceeds 800 people we've seen some heavy lag. Next week will not have an Alpha Test and we'll be focusing on fixing this. The week after if we are able to hold five days of tests with no issues, we will open Alpha globally on 11/26.

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So lol that the point of Alpha to find and fix issue it still not behind. Look at what happen to the other alpha and beta we did -.- soon we log on beta they had to stop it to like 3rd week where it was good enough for us to play. So i don't care how long it take as long as they get everything working.

You can't really put a date on when new alpha would start or when would beta start there really is not delay as long as they find the issue and fix it then it doing fine we get too play soon enough.

I myself don't mind if it takes 5 months tbh. i have stuff to do. however knowing people i know not even half of them will stay...

Theres a ton of other games out there and if they star5t today and make a good progress in 5 months its gonna be hard to quit it.

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Originally Posted by Mamba

The game is never going to be perfect.
Perfect is not achievable state - there will always be something wrong that needs to be tweaked and something that a certain group of people wont like.

In my opinnion 5 months is quite long considering what we have seen so far looks already pretty "ready" so to speak.
I doubt they will have 5 months for BETA, I am thinking maybe 1-2 months of BETA max and then release. So I think the game will be out April-May time the latest.

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Shhhh I'm aware of the technicalities. I don't really mean perfect in the literal sense. I mean when Square Enix can sit down together and agree as a team that the game is a masterpiece and they have achieved what they wanted to do for a released product, and that absolutely nothing about it was half-assed. Everything received due effort, everything was addressed, and there's enough to keep players happy and meet most expectations.

Then and only then should the game be released.