Gear progressions is going to be tied to season pass in Evercold?

You can do lots of things. For example i have mostly stuck with hunts to cap and the alliance raids, normal raids. I just don't like the new mechs in these instances, I used to run these all the time in previous expansions. Heck by now in older expansions i have multiple mounts from ex's not so with dumbtrail. I have more fun in other games than i do in dumbtrail. One other thing if they didn't screw up OC massively then i would use it like bozja to cap tomes it goes very fast.

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Originally Posted by Molex

You didn't listen did you ? Missed points carry over to next week and increase your cap basically, you won't be left behind.

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I think Koji said, if you do everything for the current week you can go back and do things you missed last week.

Depending on what the chores are, there might be something that you can't do, like if there's a crafting one and you don't do crafting, you would be locked out of catching up on any of the ones from last week that you can do but you missed.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

I think Koji said, if you do everything for the current week you can go back and do things you missed last week.

Depending on what the chores are, there might be something that you can't do, like if there's a crafting one and you don't do crafting, you would be locked out of catching up on any of the ones from last week that you can do but you missed.

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he said you can go back when you capped the wap didnt he? you dont need to finish every mission

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It's an upgrade to the current system in every possible way:

- You aren't restricted to just Expert Roulette or Hunt Trains. Now, it will be like the mogtome system, which it's now clear was a test run.

- If you miss a day's roulettes, it's fine because it's a weekly system now and you won't be stuck getting less due to having already done Expert for the day.

- If you miss a week, you'll be able to catch up for the last week too.

- Probably means no armory chest or currency/totem maintanenace anymore. Just simply unlock system.

- Share item level to lower item level jobs, so you only ever have to gear 1 job and you're done.

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Not exactly. It's basically a reverse ilvl sync, so things like Materia don't carry over. And I kinda expect substats to be wonky, because we know there are weird things going on with substat caps on syned down gear right now.
Which means you most likely still want to gear alt jobs you're actually playing, it's just no longer completely crippling your ability to do content on a job you haven't geared yet.

I imagine the tone the iLvl mirroring will be like, if you have BiS on your main Job, let's say, idk, BLM, and you find a group that is still progging the tier, and they need a Healer or a Phys Range, which you do have leveled and know how to play pretty well but you have gear from like last tier still, you can safely mirror it into the appropriate role, join them to help, and honestly still be better geared than anyone progging, but the mirrored gear will feel meaningfully weaker, enough that you would never beat them in enmity even while executing the same identical rotation other than some insane crit luck, than someone with *proper* BiS and materia and so on.

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Originally Posted by Mikey_R

All we know so far is it is designed to replace the tome system with something different where, rather than mainly doing roulettes for tomes for gear, there is going to be a list of weekly tasks that award points that span a variety of content.

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If that's the case then they already failed right out of the gate because gear progression is going to get even worse for casual players than it already is... because Dungeon/Extreme Trials/Normal Mode Raid/Alliance Raid gear becomes outdated when it gets released either before or after the current/next/previous Savage Raid tier... and Normal Mode Trials don't even give gear PERIOD...

Add the fact that not all Extreme Trials give give weapons, and it's usually the one that gives accessories, and not all Extreme Trials give accessories, and ZERO Extreme Trials give out armor... then you have Dungeons AND Normal Mode Raids that NEVER give you WEAPONS for GEAR PROGRESSION, though Alliance Raids are much worse because they NEVER give you ANY WEAPONS OR ACCESSORIES!

Replacing a gear progression system that COULD work better than it currently does with a gear progression system that actively PUNISHES players who DON'T play the game for REASONS BEYOND THEIR CONTROL IS A TERRIBLE IDEA FOR ANY LIVE SERVICE GAME mostly because players are going to just not play the game JUST TO PROVE A POINT to the person that came up with said terrible idea.

What on earth are you even talkin-...
Do you think that the removal of the weekly tomestone grind means they'll also remove tomestone gear and your only source of armour upgrades is gonna be savage? Lmao.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

What on earth are you even talkin-...
Do you think that the removal of the weekly tomestone grind means they'll also remove tomestone gear and your only source of armour upgrades is gonna be savage? Lmao.

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This is Creative Business Unit 3 AND Square-Enix, we're talking about, and I would not be the least be surprised if they actually did do that and they end up course correcting REALLY FAST like they did with tanks still using their ilvl 270 STR accessories back in Stormblood launch JUST TO CLEAR Extreme and Savage content... which is still hilarious to this day...

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Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure

If that's the case then they already failed right out of the gate because gear progression is going to get even worse for casual players than it already is... because Dungeon/Extreme Trials/Normal Mode Raid/Alliance Raid gear becomes outdated when it gets released either before or after the current/next/previous Savage Raid tier... and Normal Mode Trials don't even give gear PERIOD...

Add the fact that not all Extreme Trials give give weapons, and it's usually the one that gives accessories, and not all Extreme Trials give accessories, and ZERO Extreme Trials give out armor... then you have Dungeons AND Normal Mode Raids that NEVER give you WEAPONS for GEAR PROGRESSION, though Alliance Raids are much worse because they NEVER give you ANY WEAPONS OR ACCESSORIES!

Replacing a gear progression system that COULD work better than it currently does with a gear progression system that actively PUNISHES players who DON'T play the game for REASONS BEYOND THEIR CONTROL IS A TERRIBLE IDEA FOR ANY LIVE SERVICE GAME mostly because players are going to just not play the game JUST TO PROVE A POINT to the person that came up with said terrible idea.

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I don't know what you are smoking to come to these conclusions?

All we know is they are replacing tomes, which could only be obtained from max level combat content and replacing it with a system, that likely mimics a tome progression system, but you can do a much larger variety of content in order to make progress. Examples include progress via crafting, gathering, Gold Saucer etc. where you wouldn't normally get tomes.

We aren't even going to hear exactly how the system works until at least the Japanese Fan Fest, so why not wait until then before making more wild, baseless accusations.

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Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure

If that's the case then they already failed right out of the gate because gear progression is going to get even worse for casual players than it already is...

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Part of the reason casual players don't gear up properly is because they don't understand how to. This new User Interface seems to make it extremely clear what gear they should be aiming for (weekly tome gear and Savage gear), and what tasks they can do to unlock it, as opposed to having them seek out the gear from places they don't know about.

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Replacing a gear progression system that COULD work better than it currently does with a gear progression system that actively PUNISHES players who DON'T play the game

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The current tomestone system punishes you for not playing weekly, because you lose out on weekly tomestone gear and weekly Savage loot. The new system will give you the chance to play bi-weekly instead. So... it punishes less than the current system, but still punishes.