For Shame, Mr. Yoshida - Being a Healer in 2026

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Originally Posted by GraceHorizon

Yeah not every tank is equally skilled. As a Sage I have so much OGCD barrier and mitigation that I can act like the tank needs my help, and I don’t sacrifice anything important by doing so.

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To be honest, Sage's passive heals make me feel like I take no damage to the point that I don't even use my own tank heals. Suddenly, I notice when in a party with a non-Sage and I'm like "why are things hitting harder this time". Of course I can still handle it myself, but it rather throws me off getting different healers with wildly different passive balancing.

There's a difference between actually needing the healer vs feeling like the tank would keel over without healer's active help (but actually don't).

As a chronic green dps in roulettes, it's rare of me to see the former. Sure they would teeter around 50% to 20% health every so often but did they die? Given how they've made this feat increasingly easy to achieve even without a WAR nowadays, it gets increasingly rare to find where your service is actually needed outside being required to pop the Duty Finder queues.

I wonder what would happen (socially speaking) if a healer says "You don't need to use all your cooldowns btw" to the tank instead.

It's genuinely a treat when you get a tank that actually needs healing... But usually a tank needing constant healing is the sign of a bad tank because of how badly the game is designed.

And their solution to the problem of tanks having too many heals is giving tanks more heals.

Here’s a question

Let’s say that the design of tank healing is “support” for incompetent healers. Is it fair it’s still there for competant healers

When a good healer drags a bad tank through a dungeon it doesn’t diminish the tanks fun. And a good healer and a good tank don’t diminish the tanks fun, nor does a good tank and a bad healer diminish the healers fun. But a good tank and a good healer DOES diminish the healers fun

In an MMO, the traditional trinity — tank, healer, and DPS — should actually matter.

A healer or DPS shouldn’t be able to survive more than two or three direct hits from a boss. At the same time, a tank shouldn’t be able to take five or six hits without needing healing. Mitigation should be used for tankbusters or large incoming damage, but the tank should still require healing shortly after being hit, even when using mitigation.

The game shouldn’t be designed around the idea that AI companions or solo players must always be able to clear everything. Instead, it should be designed with the expectation that a full party understands how to play their roles.

If some players really want to play the game entirely solo or only with the Trust system, then Square Enix could simply provide a separate, easier version of the dungeon for that mode.

In that solo mode, they can simplify things as much as they want. They could even simplify the jobs themselves so someone could just press one button repeatedly and still progress through the content.

I don’t have any issue with that.

But when it comes to the multiplayer part — the MMO itself — the content should involve a real level of challenge where the tank/healer/DPS trinity actually matters.

This all would be far less of an issue if healers moment to moment game play was handled better. We have 90% of our kit devoted to healing, and 10% devoted to damage. An engaging damage kit that gave us tools to spend on healing would make instances of not needing to heal a lot more bearable.

Welcome to the same issue we've had for at least 4 years, arguably 6.
Nothing has changed, nothing will change.

when playing whm, I hate it when the tank is unable to self-sustain himself

mindlessly spamming holy and sometimes being top dmg is the joy of that class

(this is mostly venting, sry)
I miss healing being needed so damn much. Literally the funnest thing in the game (to me) used to be healing, I loved being able to use every part of my kit to keep a tank up, or if the tank fell, I could do the same thing to keep the party alive while I raise the tank. I think about this sometimes while sitting in modern dungeons and it makes it genuinely difficult for me to want to queue again.

I won't forgive them for what they did to healsrs. If during 8.0, the devs don't at least try to give a similar experience to the sort of healing that made me fall iove with the role, then I'm done healing for good. I am sick of playing healer and being supposed to do nothing by design.

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Originally Posted by Aviatorhead

(this is mostly venting, sry)
I miss healing being needed so damn much. Literally the funnest thing in the game (to me) used to be healing, I loved being able to use every part of my kit to keep a tank up, or if the tank fell, I could do the same thing to keep the party alive while I raise the tank. I think about this sometimes while sitting in modern dungeons and it makes it genuinely difficult for me to want to queue again.

I won't forgive them for what they did to healsrs. If during 8.0, the devs don't at least try to give a similar experience to the sort of healing that made me fall iove with the role, then I'm done healing for good. I am sick of playing healer and being supposed to do nothing by design.

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i mean.. you want to heal people theres plenty of content that allows you to do so. Literally every ex trial, savages, variant+, quantum give heals a lot to do
you cant make casual dungeons more heal intensive, because 90% of "casuals" would fail them then and they would vent even more