like I said before. I like to fish and I want to fish.
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Not everything needs to be exclusively for achievement hunters and album collectors. A fish can just be super super rare and hence virtually nobody will have it.
Why is this fish something a fisher has to have?
Sorry, I'm confused. Why does a fish tied to achievements need to be for achievements...? I don't know if I understand your question. :( A lot of fish are super super rare. I mentioned the idea of "legendary" fish not because it's something I necessarily want, but because this fish doesn't fit what is expected/reasonable for a Big Fish imo.
There's regular fish that aren't necessarily tied to achievements and there are big fish that are which are requirements for achievements and fishing titles. These titles are super rare and actually difficult to get. It's a form of bragging rights.
A fish like Purse of Riches is tied directly tied to achievements. Every expansion us fishers get the expansion achievement title and like Big Fish and The Final Fish. You mentioned how a super rare fish is a cool idea. That's what a lot of big fish are especially when you consider the x.55 fish like Ruby Dragon, Cinder Surprise, and Sidereal Whale. They might not be down for down for months at a time, but even so I've known people to spend months if not years trying to catch just one of these 3 (myself included).
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I mean so long as the fish isn't needed for any quests or something, a super rare fish sounds cool, actually?
Plus let's not forget it's still on the quite easy/fast side of things to get, comparing actually difficult stuff like say, getting Insane in the Membrane in WoW back when it was first added
Insane in the Membrane is a achievement according to a data tracking website that 3% of active players have. According to a site that tracks XIV achievements, Endwalker's fishing title "The Final Fish" is a title that is owned by 1.5% of players who track their titles/achievements. Shadowbringer's fishing title "Big Fish" is owned by 2.1% of players who track their titles/achievements. And again for XIV, this is is a site for people who track their achievements meaning these titles are even more rare when you include people who don't care about titles/achievements. Plus fishing titles have only gotten easier to get with each expansion.
But like I said before. I like to fish and I want to fish. I have caught every single fish in this game whether that's regular fish, big fish, spear fish, or ocean fish. Every. single. one. Aside from Purse, but fingers crossed at the upcoming window this month. I enjoy fishing because of the community and challenge and Purse of Riches is disappointing to me. It is rare because of a time gate and won't give any sense of bragging rights unlike other rare fish that have challenged and united us. Also this is only a x.4 fish. The difficult fish of this expansion haven't even been released yet.
We'll have to wait and see!
I only have a little experience in WoW so I'm honestly not familiar with it at all, but my partner was an OG WoW player and did get the achievement while it was current. This is what they told me when I asked them about how it compares to fishing achievements in XIV: :eek:
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"It was a grinding achievement and not hard to get. There's no research required and most people that got the achievement already had a good chunk of the progress done before the achievement came out. My guild would do stuff to gain rep for fun on the weekend for example. Getting insane in the membrane is more similar to getting the original relic weapons in XIV than it is to fishing achievements. Fishing achievements aren't grinding, they're research heavy, time sensitive, and luck + skill based."
Even though I don't know much about WoW, I am still familiar with actively working towards achievements in XIV that take 6+ months if not years to accomplish not including fishing! c:
Anyway yes back to topic! In my opinion, I don't think Purse is interesting enough to warrant a title on it's own because it's difficulty isn't based on fishing. And it's kinda boring ^^;
It's difficulty is based on being able to make it to a window because of real world constraints the average person may have (ex. having a job, going to school, spending time with family/friends, sleep, game/life balance, etc.) Additionally, it's a only a straight catch. Even just adding an ambitious int would make this fish more interesting imo. However, if this really isn't a bugged fish, I'm guessing this is intentional because they wanted the "difficulty" to be getting to the fish window rather than actually fishing itself. Thus extending how long the average fisher is "progging" without having to actually fish. Maybe they wanted to try a different way to increase the rarity of a fish by making it less accessible to the average player. Some players might be able to go to a lot of windows, but the average player might only be able to go a handful times in a year.
However I'm not sure what the bite rate is. I've heard people say it's easy to catch so maybe the average player will be able to catch it within a year after a few windows of attempts, but idk. I've also had my fair share of terrible luck with "easy to catch" fish lol. I went to the previous window and there were a decent amount of us considering how early it was and a few people caught it including one person who caught it twice. I'm really curious what the bite rate of the fish is, but at this point I think we only have data from two windows. :confused:
We'll have to wait and see!
Edit: I dont think I was clear on what I meant when I brought up the idea of legendary fishing. I don't want Purse to be separate from Big Fishing, but if XIV decides to continue with intentionally increasing rarity of fish by making them significantly less accessible to the average fisher I think I'd like them to put those fish in their own category outside of Big Fishing, but idk. Purse is unlike any other fish we've experienced so far so it's new ground.