The fight design of AAC M3 Savage, (AKA. Tyrant Savage) fails to make fun.

my tomestone (although people uploading logs today is amiss due to the recent update) today proves that enrage is not the problem in m11s. It's mechanics. my chest is hurting right now from the amount of time i have spent in party finder this evening wiping to mechanics that somehow people have slipped by into reclears not knowing the fight or being intimately acquainted with what needs to be done at the end. I checked the perpetrators after the groups disbanded, and if it wasn't socially unacceptable for me to tell you what I saw, all i can say is you can go see for yourself. I'm getting a reclear static or probably finding something else to do with my time. I literally cannot stand this anymore as my body is even reacting to the sheer pain this past 3-4 weeks have caused me, and to consume all of my limited time on tuesday night with trolls in party finder is enough to send me here to tell you guys to LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE! I wish more logs were uploaded, so you could see more, but every party has been just about the same. Enrage was never the problem!

edit: and on my own little side tangent rant, the amount of lootmaster groups and carry-fors is outlandish. I've filtered the pf to show (weekly reward unclaimed) and 60+% of all groups are lootmaster or "clear for my bro. he's enrage". Two bros just caused me to lose an hour and a half of my time. NO! earn it! I earned it, YOU earn it! Spend some time and fight with the enrage groups. I was in many many many many many enrage groups before i finally cleared it. NO free rides from me! Make my life easier and I'll make yours easier, otherwise it's a NO from me

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Originally Posted by b3nzyme

my tomestone (although people uploading logs today is amiss due to the recent update) today proves that enrage is not the problem in m11s. It's mechanics. my chest is hurting right now from the amount of time i have spent in party finder this evening wiping to mechanics that somehow people have slipped by into reclears not knowing the fight or being intimately acquainted with what needs to be done at the end. I checked the perpetrators after the groups disbanded, and if it wasn't socially unacceptable for me to tell you what I saw, all i can say is you can go see for yourself. I'm getting a reclear static or probably finding something else to do with my time. I literally cannot stand this anymore as my body is even reacting to the sheer pain this past 3-4 weeks have caused me, and to consume all of my limited time on tuesday night with trolls in party finder is enough to send me here to tell you guys to LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE! I wish more logs were uploaded, so you could see more, but every party has been just about the same. Enrage was never the problem!

edit: and on my own little side tangent rant, the amount of lootmaster groups and carry-fors is outlandish. I've filtered the pf to show (weekly reward unclaimed) and 60+% of all groups are lootmaster or "clear for my bro. he's enrage". Two bros just caused me to lose an hour and a half of my time. NO! earn it! I earned it, YOU earn it! Spend some time and fight with the enrage groups. I was in many many many many many enrage groups before i finally cleared it. NO free rides from me! Make my life easier and I'll make yours easier, otherwise it's a NO from me

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maybe take a break? sounds like you'd need one man

it's tuesday. it's reclear day. RECLEAR DAYY!!!!! i want the rest of the week off to relax. not get back on here and suffer with an even hgiher likelihood that everyones bad, slower refills, and more tmie wasted. i want my TIME BACK

Show me your footwork!111

I thought it was a pretty good fight. We had to be cleaner than the other fights in the tier up to that point, but we just ensured we got two lb3s and it was no big deal w1 . Keep your head up, good luck with the tier.

Yes, it does force you to be consistent as you have to do everything twice essentially except the very last mechanic, but it's a 3rd turn not a 1st, so, it's expected somewhat.

I find the fight very fun

the issue is the game doesn't teach players what a rotation is.

the fight isn't overtuned.

its quite literally a mass skill issue.

PF has sucked eggs for clears since the dawn of MMORPG raids.

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Originally Posted by b3nzyme

it's tuesday. it's reclear day. RECLEAR DAYY!!!!! i want the rest of the week off to relax. not get back on here and suffer with an even hgiher likelihood that everyones bad, slower refills, and more tmie wasted. i want my TIME BACK

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Stop playing then.

You're very clearly not enjoying yourself. Take a break, change your class, learn your rotation, find a raid group.

if you're bashing your head against the wall, day after day.

look at yourself or the people you are around.

You actually made 2 threads about this. You are beyond cooked. Look internally.

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Originally Posted by xiaomingshi

I believe that dev's purpose of creating a savage fight is not only creating an opportunity to test players' ability of executing job's skills, reacting to "difficult" mechanics, also, dev wants players to have a sensation of success and having fun after a savage fight is cleared. Among PF community, the Tyrant savage in AAC savage series fails the above purpose significantly. Firstly, before the "Omen" mechanic, dev repeatedly uses the random weapons mechanic which is quite boring. Secondly "Omen", "Meteor Rain", "Arena Split", and even the "Stampede" mechanics are not designed overly complex to trick players. Nevertheless, dev dramatically increases the DPS check of Tyrant savage preventing players from clearing the fight after successfully handling the above-mentioned mechanics. After weeks of trying to clear a savage fight without a success, most PF players feel tired and frustrated. I believe that if dev needs to create a gatekeeping savage fight, it's better to create several fun and complex mechanics to test PF players' abilities, but players should be able to clear such a complex savage fight with week 1 or 2 gears. Dramatically increasing the DPC check without creating several complex and fun mechanics easily let players feel frustrated. I won't be surprised to see that many PF players might stop at Tyrant savage this tier and will never clear it and won't progress to start Lindwum savage. Hopefully in the future, when dev designs savage fight, they will balance well the feeling of pressure and having a sensation of success. I believe that creating a sensation of frustration for a savage difficulty level fight is not something dev wants to achieve.

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My brother from another mother, do consider looking at your performances and figure out where you go wrong.

You somehow managed to do 13k DPS in M10s with 0 deaths, while also having a lot of your gear already. You literally are one of the main causes why you couldn't pass the DPS check on the Tyrant.