Couldnt we possibly in any way allow people to clear savage in trusts?

I have long been advocate for something similar, a "practice mode" that is designed to always fail and let you practice the fight to your heart's content, the idea that Trusts couldn't possibly handle it is genuinely stupid, bots don't have to play by the same rules as the player, and there is quite a few instances where they already don't, a very visible example is Dohn Mheg tightrope segment, where various characters will do it differently, Ali Alp and Y'shtola will do it normally, Thancred leaps across, and Urianger teleports across, with that in mind, I don't see why similar concessions couldn't be made for the Trust system in higher difficulty fights, from making them move arbitrarily faster as they need to, to outright ignoring certain aspects of mechanics as needed.

Maybe you should accept not everything is made for you.

I hate party finder players as much as the next guy, but this is an MMO.

Cross-DC parties would solve many of these problems.

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Maybe you should accept not everything is made for you.

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Not once did i make a demand or ask anyone to change anything that they are doing. I just simply said "can we...?" And opened a forum for discussion on this topic where ideas and disagreements can be discussed. Yes or no. Commenting about me and making assumptions about myself is vitriolic and has no place in this forum or in society. Ive ignored a lot of baseless comments until i'd seen yours. You and everyone else that hit "like" represent the bottom 70% of the unfortunately overwhelming population of internet dwellers that have been online since its inception lashing out at people unprovoked. Provide substance of "good idea" or "bad idea" and grow up or just keep running into conflict until one day maybe you learn better.

Not one time.did i ever believe anything was ever made for me. I worked hard and earned everything i got, and on this mmo, i will continue to keep playing. If my ideas offend you, deal with it. Maybe nobody like the idea, but i came in here expecting that was very likely a real possibility. Life moves on.

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Not once did i make a demand or ask anyone to change anything that they are doing. I just simply said "can we...?" And opened a forum for discussion on this topic where ideas and disagreements can be discussed. Yes or no. Commenting about me and making assumptions about myself is vitriolic and has no place in this forum or in society. Ive ignored a lot of baseless comments until i'd seen yours. You and everyone else that hit "like" represent the bottom 70% of the unfortunately overwhelming population of internet dwellers that have been online since its inception lashing out at people unprovoked. Provide substance of "good idea" or "bad idea" and grow up or forever dont belong.

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great bait man this is the best thread in along time

This is a good idea tbh. PF is full of lobotomites who struggle with even the easiest savages thus wasting hours of your day.

If it isn't bait, no. I'm 100% pro-Trusts in all MSQ content. The moment it steps outside MSQ, forcing multiplayer in this online game is a reasonable ask. Most standard mode content (such as base difficulty raids) is still easy enough that even scrub players like myself can complete them, and I even play a job that's rather easy and forgiving so that I can more easily learn fights.

This is a Final Fantasy title, first, but it's an MMO. Play with other people. If they're terrible, leave. You don't have to stay in bad groups.

They 100% could, it has nothing to do with not being able to code the npc's to handle a savage fight. (They could also be infinitely better in dungeons but they choose otherwise) SE simply wants to create the illusion that these fights are something special / not give you that option or PF would be dead. The only reason's it seems so active is because a good majority of raiders are dumpster fire so hours upon hours of your time are wasted due to PF walls. The irony of it all is that most do it to attain BIS in a game with the most pointless gearing system of any MMO I have played to date. The entire tier can be cleared without it and once you have it - it simply makes that tier easier; there is nothing else to utilize the upgrade(s). By the time something higher comes along there is a new set of gear the tops raid drops, rinse / repeat. So they lock you out after 1 clear for weekly's simply to keep people coming back. I play 14 practically daily but will be the first to admit that it's high end content (how it's handled / outcome) means next to nothing) and is absolute remedial cringe.

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They 100% could, it has nothing to do with not being able to code the npc's to handle a savage fight. (They could also be infinitely better in dungeons but they choose otherwise) SE simply wants to create the illusion that these fights are something special / not give you that option or PF would be dead. The only reason's it seems so active is because a good majority of raiders are dumpster fire so hours upon hours of your time are wasted due to PF walls. The irony of it all is that most do it to attain BIS in a game with the most pointless gearing system of any MMO I have played to date. The entire tier can be cleared without it and once you have it - it simply makes that tier easier; there is nothing else to utilize the upgrade(s). By the time something higher comes along there is a new set of gear the tops raid drops, rinse / repeat. So they lock you out after 1 clear for weekly's simply to keep people coming back. I play 14 practically daily but will be the first to admit that it's high end content (how it's handled / outcome) means next to nothing) and is absolute remedial cringe.

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I think i like your comment the best. I sort of disagree with saying the way they handle high end content is cringe, because it probably is from some players points of views, but i believe it is a healthy mix, which is why i enjoyed being with a casual static for years. The content basically enables people to engage with one another and have fun. However, besides what i stated before about not having enough time in game, ive also got this burning desire to bring into the open and in peoples faces the naked truth of what it is, which is basically the same as how you put it... it is not hard. It is meant to be an mmo, so i'd always wished people would just let players have fun and stop the culture of believing the content is so hard and that there is a top level tier of play. No, there is a top tier level of illusioned ego. I cant tell you how many times i raided late in the tier with my casual static only to have people talk down on us or myself, as if just about anyone able-bodied is capable of clearing this all quickly if they wanted to or chose different circumstances. Putting the naked truth out there helps squash the elitism, but im not sure how to change peoples mindsets. I had ideas about in game parsers before everyone talked about it today and many other ideas, but somehow, someway, some, if not all, of the elitist gamers out there need to be brought down to earth so players can enjoy their game hassle-free and with unbridled freedom and hope for tomorrow's community, and it just wont happen when people dont realize what the game was meant for in the first place. I constantly had people interject my conversations not involving them with conversations about how their group was "better". Literally both groups had a choice, and im an outlier that proves that i can just change my direction and change my outcome. Anybody can do it, so please, people. Stop the elitism. Theres nothing you can do (and especially on this game) that i cant or someone else cant also do. /soapbox