Forked Tower is making me quit the game

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Originally Posted by Valence

Wait for the content to die down and OC being reduced to a single instance, making entry a no brainer like for BA today, and watch the community suddenly change its tune and how this is the best content in the world. And we'll get served the exact same thing next expansion because that's the best content in the world, right?

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Honestly, given how it's designed like crap—light-years away from BA, which was already designed like ass back then—I seriously doubt it.
It's content doomed to die, just like Chaotic.

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Originally Posted by YovelaLindswood

Its really easy to get in a premade with helplines or another discord. There's probably one available in your 2-3hr time frame. If they don't have one see if they are willing to try one at that time or ask if you can host one yourself. Yes this is the worst designed content I've ever seen but if you don't want to put in the effort to get in that's entirely on you. Don't get passive aggressive with the guy telling you how to get into tower because you want handouts.

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HANDOUTS? We are ????? ultimate and savage raiders dude..Some of us also have a job and we are used to not getting 'handouts'. Talk about a passive aggressive, hypocritical Discord snob gatekeep mentality.
You are literally trolling, it is almost impossible, to get into a single instance of prog with limited available time slots, I am looking at a form 5 days from now in Field Op Enjoyers and it has 8 alliances worth of people signed up for it. The discords are not accommodating the amount of people that need to go through this , at all.

The amount of hoops you need to jump through, joining like 5 discord servers and scrolling through forms, signing up for them, checking pins, and hoping you get in, is off the charts ridiculous. Nobody but some no life masochists are going to be engaging with this in any meaningful way, and be happy about it. Imagine being like that and then have the gall to patronize working people who don't have the time for this for wanting 'handouts'. Insane.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Wait for the content to die down and OC being reduced to a single instance, making entry a no brainer like for BA today, and watch the community suddenly change its tune and how this is the best content in the world. And we'll get served the exact same thing next expansion because that's the best content in the world, right?

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Knowing how out of touch with the community and designing anything even remotely long-term attractive they are are as devs. I think we are in for a wild ride to a crash in 8.0 unless they manage to design themselves out of the ditch. They only know how to design two extremes, brainjarringly simple or to the other side. Needlessly complex. They are having a trouble of finding the golden midway of things.

Its painfully obvious in their world design too, pretty maps, that are empty and meaningless with half-finished buildings and closed dwellings. With quests and npc's that mean nothing. Same fates, same hunts, rince and repeat. Yoshi P's design is more of a checklist than anything actually designed to innovate or please the playerbase for longterm. But yet they expect people to pay for a long term subscription.

I like to do the content and a lot of it, but I don't like the methods and what we need to do for it... and ending dying at one of the bosses because am not 24 in the group and that 1 person can by accident ruin it for all as well.

They should make us able to queue into it and I would be fine with if PF can't be used for it, but just that we can queue into it like a normal raid or whatever and it working cross server of course as well, so quickly can get a game going.

Wow discord again....... this is why we're in the sht hole were in you guts alienate so hard....... but that's SE fault for not doing better and only 1% matter you know the group who loves to whine, complain, and literally try to shame ppl.

I never tried Baldesion Arsenal, but I remember Castrum Lacus Litore and Dalraida being just fine to queue for, this Forked Tower stuff just looks like a straight up regression.

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Originally Posted by 0blivion

Join a discord and sign up for a scheduled run. Also, what Falak said.

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I tried that years ago when I finished Eureka, I joined the discord for my datacenter and tried to do BA that way and didn't get picked because there were far more people than there were spots. I'm not going to live in a discord channel waiting for announcements so I can race other people for a chance to do something (while the regulars get in first of course). It all seems like an un-fun waste of time

Edit: and I don't hate them for organizing runs this way, I understand that this level of organization is the only practical way to do it and I'm sure they've helped a lot of people but it clearly doesn't work for everyone.

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Originally Posted by LostWanderer

I've pretty much farmed CC for about 2 hours every day since 7.25 came out. Yet i've not been inside the Forked Tower once. Today was the first time i actually saw it but it was already ongoing. Whoever designed this really hates people who can only play 2-3h a day.

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3 hours a day is also a lot...

I like when Cider Spider mentioned in his recent video that even with "streamer privilege" he was unable to get a group together to enter tower.

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Originally Posted by LostWanderer

I've pretty much farmed CC for about 2 hours every day since 7.25 came out. Yet i've not been inside the Forked Tower once. Today was the first time i actually saw it but it was already ongoing. Whoever designed this really hates people who can only play 2-3h a day.

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I don't know what you talking about, I have a job, family, girlfriend and friends and it's not impossible, including several friends who have jobs and managed to clear it.
We are different or special and we don't know it?
Everything in life depends on how much you want it, if you don't want to go after it or make an extra effort, no one can do it for you

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