Revert level 90 Alliance XP change

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Originally Posted by Stasya

I hope square pays to people like you at least 1$ per post.

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So we're going to the point that I'm the equivalent of China's 50¢ party?

Come on now. While there are some things that are heavily indefensible, this is one of those things I personally think is okay in the scope of the game. Do I hate the bots that constantly go through CT? Hell yes. Do I want CT moved to MSQ? Yes. Do I want one Alliance Raid to be redone ad nauseum akin to CT because of an EXP Exploit that one of the devs made a mistake on? No.

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

All means of levelling are low effort.

Are you really trying to imply that spamming AoEs in FATEs is high effort?
Are you really trying to imply that doing the MSQ fetch quests is high effort?
Are you really trying to imply that Labyrinth of the Ancients roulette is high effort?
Are you really trying to imply that beastmean dailies are high effort?
Are you really trying to imply that getting sastasha in levelling roulette is high effort?

I could go on, but I'm sure your pattern recognition can fill in any other "high effort" content I've missed to get the point.

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At least be fair and compare it to current spamable content and not something that is limited like quests or on a daily roulette.
Do you really think the lvl 97 Dungeon should give 1/3 of the EXP? Correct me if im wrong but you cant just mindlessly sit there on the 2. Boss like you can in Aglaia.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

I dont see the problem with the nerf.
Getting 1 lvl in under 20Min without any effort is too broken.
Im surprised they waited this long. It was obviously not intended.
Complaining that 14's gameplay is stale and boring but willing to spam the most boring Alliance Raid. smh
Make up your mind, guys.

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The only reason why it is "no effort" is because the EW alliance raids became a snooze fest with no serious challenge to it. You don't even have to dodge AOEs if the Healers are half-awake. That is something they should fix instead of nerfing XP.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

I dont see the problem with the nerf.
Getting 1 lvl in under 20Min without any effort is too broken.
Im surprised they waited this long. It was obviously not intended.
Complaining that 14's gameplay is stale and boring but willing to spam the most boring Alliance Raid. smh
Make up your mind, guys.

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In about twenty minutes you can do your Pelu Pelu quests, Daily Dawn Hunt Marks and a Frontline Roulette and have well over a single level.
Leveling Roulette will take you, at most, twenty minutes on average. Alliance roulette will take you about twenty minutes.

Need I go on?

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

In about twenty minutes you can do your Pelu Pelu quests, Daily Dawn Hunt Marks and a Frontline Roulette and have well over a single level.
Leveling Roulette will take you, at most, twenty minutes on average. Alliance roulette will take you about twenty minutes.

Need I go on?

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And all that is on a daily lockout. At leats compare the exp gain to spamable content like the DT dungeons.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

And all that is on a daily lockout. At leats compare the exp gain to spamable content like the DT dungeons.

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Friend, not once in the initial post you made did you specify a "daily lockout" you said:

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Getting 1 lvl in under 20Min without any effort is too broken.

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I was replying to this, specifically. Anything else you may or may not have said since this initial post is irrelevant to the point I was making as I did not read beyond your initial post and was only addressing the above claim.

If you want it to be compared to spammable content, then yes, you would be correct, there is no comparison for that in terms of other content.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

I dont see the problem with the nerf.
Getting 1 lvl in under 20Min without any effort is too broken.
Im surprised they waited this long. It was obviously not intended.
Complaining that 14's gameplay is stale and boring but willing to spam the most boring Alliance Raid. smh
Make up your mind, guys.

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'Mate', all of it is boring, at least if they put all other ARs in-line with Aglaia and co., - Then it would at least incentivize people to run alliance raids beyond just crystal tower all the time. I don't see why an MMO should favor 4-man instanced content over something like 24-man, or to an arguable degree 8-man.

You can argue "But 1 level in 20 minutes is broken.. It's all low effort.. Literally none of the levelling dungeons posit any form of challenge whatsoever, and the time disparity is barely even noticeable regardless.. Game literally throws levels at you. Game literally gives you up to 50 levels in 30 minutes with crafting, for example...

It is stale and boring, regardless of whether it is Aglaia or dungeon spamming 91-97, it's all incredibly stale, this is literally a non-argument lol - At least if they made other ARs in-line with Aglaia and co., - It would then at least encourage people to run other 24-man content outside of Crystal Tower, which yeah, should be normal for an MMO..

Some of you were seriously under the delusion that a 24m raid providing a massively higher amount of exp than we'd normally seen was somehow intended and not going to be fixed?

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Stay mad I guess. At least I won't have to carry as many griefers when I get those raids in roulette now. The people who spammed the 24 man to level weren't generally putting an effort in. As evidence, I submit the previous, and future, posts in this thread. People who enjoy getting better and learning aren't generally going to cry that a very clear oversight was fixed. They're just going to keep getting better and learning.

Don't worry, kids. Your zero effort leveling method is coming back in a month or 2. Dry those tears. Have a snickers. You'll survive to see the end of the day.

Unless, you know, you're in a part of the work that is impacted by issues that actually matter.

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Originally Posted by SubmarineAlt

Don't worry, kids. Your zero effort leveling method is coming back in a month or 2.

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Occult Crescent will not have a leveling aspect to it, as mentioned in the Live Letter, that is being saved for Deep Dungeon in 7.3X.
The new exploration zone is exclusively level 100 content, just like how Eureka was exclusively level 70 content.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

'Mate', all of it is boring, at least if they put all other ARs in-line with Aglaia and co., - Then it would at least incentivize people to run alliance raids beyond just crystal tower all the time. I don't see why an MMO should favor 4-man instanced content over something like 24-man, or to an arguable degree 8-man.

You can argue "But 1 level in 20 minutes is broken.. It's all low effort.. Literally none of the levelling dungeons posit any form of challenge whatsoever, and the time disparity is barely even noticeable regardless.. Game literally throws levels at you. Game literally gives you up to 50 levels in 30 minutes with crafting, for example...

It is stale and boring, regardless of whether it is Aglaia or dungeon spamming 91-97, it's all incredibly stale, this is literally a non-argument lol - At least if they made other ARs in-line with Aglaia and co., - It would then at least encourage people to run other 24-man content outside of Crystal Tower, which yeah, should be normal for an MMO..

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Just my personal view and opinion but DT's leveling Dungeons were a step in the right direction when it comes to the difficulty compared to EW. Not good but better than before. (I know they still have the issue with being like every other Dungeon. 6 Trashpacks, 3 Bosses ect.)
DT's Dungeons are sadly neglected by the playerbase because some old expantion content that was never meant to be for leveling in the first place is better. x1-x9 leveling dungeons have only one purpose after the first run for the MSQ. Thats leveling.
Having old content that was never meant to be for leveling being better than current content that is meant to be used for leveling feels wrong.