Moogle Treasure Trove Feedback (more of a complaint)

With all due respect, sorry, but when about 90-95% of these events are making us farm Crystal Tower, Praetorium and other stinky ARR content for these tomes (not to mention when we have to do almost the same thing for relic grinds, khloe books and roulettes) on a daily basis anyway, i think you guys can survive a weekly quest once in a while thats not for everyone.

And yes i would say the same thing if the quest would want me to do an ultimate and i would never do it. Its tomes, you can collect them anyway by the hundreds if you want to.

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Originally Posted by AyumiCosplayGlam

With all due respect, sorry, but when about 90-95% of these events are making us farm Crystal Tower, Praetorium and other stinky ARR content for these tomes (not to mention when we have to do almost the same thing for relic grinds, khloe books and roulettes) on a daily basis anyway, i think you guys can survive a weekly quest once in a while thats not for everyone.

And yes i would say the same thing if the quest would want me to do an ultimate and i would never do it. Its tomes, you can collect them anyway by the hundreds if you want to.

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Game is the same routine everyday, so when there is an event that could easily break that routine we should not complain if it doesn't.
Ok, thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by Majatok

A bit off-topic, but when I did the ultimog challenge, I wondered if I'm even playing the game.

From Floor 21 to Floor 50 all enemies died in 2-3 GCD, we only really used our full rotation during the 3 boss fights and even then they exploded after 1 minute, we barely used our pomanders.

I said this over and over again, but I don't understand why this game refuses to make use of their battle systems. Why lock content like heaven on high to this level when you don't even get to use your full kit? You can put that stuff in lvl 30 and I would have the same experience.

And before some zealot going to ask me why I didn't keep going with my group because the higher floors are totally going to be more fun (they aren't).
It's because I was bored out of my freaking mind. Why should I keep boring myself so I can maybe have 10 to 20 floors at the end where I actually get to play the game? Either the content is interesting or it isn't. It's the same with any other media, if it doesn't capture my interest in the first hour, I'm just going to drop it.

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Because SE doesn't fix stuff or revamp it, they recycle. There is plenty of content that exists in FF that COULD be good with fairly minor changes however SE would rather just introduce a new one down the road.

I have not solo run deep dungeons, but Eureka Ortho's has a nice danger curve, how I'd imagine HOH and POTD to be if they squished those floors into reasonable damage brackets.

My recycling subject applies to why moogle event is like this.

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Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu

Game is the same routine everyday, so when there is an event that could easily break that routine we should not complain if it doesn't.
Ok, thanks for sharing.

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Sorry i could not figure out what you are saying exactly.
Yes, the game is the same routine everyday and the mog tomestone events are usually double down on this routine and that is exactly the issue i have.
We do not need more incentive to run content we already do on a daily basis.We do not need more lvl100 player doing community service by running Alexander and Praetorium.

OP was complaining that the weeklies have stuff in them that they do not have access to. Which is a fair complaint, but its hard to feel bad for it when players on the level cap who are already bored out of their minds are "forced" to do ARR content everytime during events like this, just so that no one feels excluded.
I think it is more than fair to have a weekly quest every once in a while that might not be for everyone. Especially because the reward itself is just a currency that you can get plenty of other ways anyway. If the rewards were exclusive, that would be another story.

The better question to ask in this whole system, is why the lvl100 folk dont have alternatives on higher levels?
Or better yet, why even have the low level options to begin with when we do it anyway thanks to the roulettes.

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Originally Posted by AyumiCosplayGlam

Sorry i could not figure out what you are saying exactly.
Yes, the game is the same routine everyday and the mog tomestone events are usually double down on this routine and that is exactly the issue i have.
We do not need more incentive to run content we already do on a daily basis.We do not need more lvl100 player doing community service by running Alexander and Praetorium.

OP was complaining that the weeklies have stuff in them that they do not have access to. Which is a fair complaint, but its hard to feel bad for it when players on the level cap who are already bored out of their minds are "forced" to do ARR content everytime during events like this, just so that no one feels excluded.
I think it is more than fair to have a weekly quest every once in a while that might not be for everyone. Especially because the reward itself is just a currency that you can get plenty of other ways anyway. If the rewards were exclusive, that would be another story.

The better question to ask in this whole system, is why the lvl100 folk dont have alternatives on higher levels?
Or better yet, why even have the low level options to begin with when we do it anyway thanks to the roulettes.

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Exactly if anything these events are incredibly generous to people who are still levelling

If you really wanted to incentivise the lesser done content for level 100’s your scope of options would be
-ivalice
-nier
-myths
-Bozja
-eureka
-HOH
-EO
-variant

None of which are remotely accessible to low level people. The fact they never fail to put prae and a bunch of ARR dungeon garbage in here is better than it really needs to be for new players given these are veteran retention events and you aren’t going to retain many veterans asking them to spam one button in ARR content when by and large that’s what we get in the roulettes anyway

Kinda makes you feel like its an attempt to get a body count into old countent.

nobody doing HOH... i've been in Q for that on different worlds for hours.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

The devs set these as as veteran retention events. That’s why they happen in the patch lulls. If you can’t access the ultimog challenge there is a good chance you aren’t even paying a sub and even if you are if you are in the middle of the MSQ you don’t need to be retained

In the nicest way possible this is literally not designed for you

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Link to where the devs said that they set these as veteran retention events? Cause I don't believe it unless I see where they said that.

I have 2 that have completed Dawntrail, one in the middle of Dawntrail, and one at the beginning of Endwalker. I also pay a sub. My 4 who are at various points in the game have zero Weekly/Minimog/Ultimog things they can do. So as a sub-paying retained veteran, it isn't aimed at me either. What retains me is leveling alts and getting the glams, mounts, minions, and so forth.

But nothing is preventing them from having choices in the quests that give higher amounts of tomestones, a higher level thing and a lower level thing.

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Originally Posted by Katz_McKatz

Link to where the devs said that they set these as veteran retention events? Cause I don't believe it unless I see where they said that.

I have 2 that have completed Dawntrail, one in the middle of Dawntrail, and one at the beginning of Endwalker. I also pay a sub. My 4 who are at various points in the game have zero Weekly/Minimog/Ultimog things they can do. So as a sub-paying retained veteran, it isn't aimed at me either. What retains me is leveling alts and getting the glams, mounts, minions, and so forth.

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If you have alts that you are still doing the MSQ with you aren’t at risk of unsubbing so you don’t have to be retained