How Physically Strong is the Warrior of Light?

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Originally Posted by Selvokaz

true but chemical warfare killed us in another timeline,

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And the buffest man in the world would still die if he was shot.

Physical strength means nothing in the face of death.

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Originally Posted by Exmo

In Heavensward the WoL got taken out by a cup of tea

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yeah you'd think after that they'd look into maybe finding away to not get killed by poison, or at least knocked unconscious.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

And the buffest man in the world would still die if he was shot.

Physical strength means nothing in the face of death.

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yes I know but I thought it funny if not prudent to point out that while I am curious about the WoL capabilities, I don't see them as unkillable or unbeatable.

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Originally Posted by Selvokaz

yeah you'd think after that they'd look into maybe finding away to not get killed by poison, or at least knocked unconscious.

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If you look at their interactions in the MSQ and sidequests, they never, ever accept a drink from a stranger again unless they see other people drinking from the same batch or if the drink is made right in front of them. It's a neat bit of subtle characterization for the Warrior of Light.

Otherwise, the Warrior of Light is stronger than Estinien, whose jumps can flatten entire forests, and they can meet the colossal Gulool Ja Ja evenly in a contest of physical strength and is the only one to do so other than Valigarmanda.

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Originally Posted by Dikatis

If you look at their interactions in the MSQ and sidequests, they never, ever accept a drink from a stranger again unless they see other people drinking from the same batch or if the drink is made right in front of them. It's a neat bit of subtle characterization for the Warrior of Light.

Otherwise, the Warrior of Light is stronger than Estinien, whose jumps can flatten entire forests, and they can meet the colossal Gulool Ja Ja evenly in a contest of physical strength and is the only one to do so other than Valigarmanda.

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I'd generally put forward that Estinien is stronger in a 'brute strength' way, it's just that the WoL is a better fighter.

Which is exactly something that'd come into play in a duel against Gulool Ja Ja. You don't destroy the royal palace you're a guest in, that's just rude.

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Originally Posted by Selvokaz

true but chemical warfare killed us in another timeline,

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Granted, that was chemical warfare that had an entire shard's worth of aether powering it up. I'm pretty sure anything would die if a planet entered its lungs.

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Originally Posted by Cleretic

I'd generally put forward that Estinien is stronger in a 'brute strength' way, it's just that the WoL is a better fighter.

Which is exactly something that'd come into play in a duel against Gulool Ja Ja. You don't destroy the royal palace you're a guest in, that's just rude.

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Well, remember Gulool Ja Ja's challenge to the Warrior of Light.

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Originally Posted by Gulool Ja Ja in "A Father First"

The battle rage is upon me! I'll stop short of killing you, of course... but expect no other mercies!

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Gulool Ja Ja and the Warrior of Light were going full throttle. Their pride as fighters wouldn't let them do anything less. And Gulool Ja Ja claims that WoL is the first one to withstand his full strength.

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Originally Posted by Gulool Ja Ja in "A Father First"

I've brought my full strength to bear against opponents before, but you are the first to withstand it. Even with my Head of Reason asleep, I never expected you to give me so much trouble... Estinien did not exaggerate: you are a force to be reckoned with!

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Gulool Ja Ja would WANT Estinien to use his full strength and Estinien would almost certainly give it to him given his interest in worthy opponents every now and then.

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Originally Posted by Dikatis

Well, remember Gulool Ja Ja's challenge to the Warrior of Light.



Gulool Ja Ja and the Warrior of Light were going full throttle. Their pride as fighters wouldn't let them do anything less. And Gulool Ja Ja claims that WoL is the first one to withstand his full strength.



Gulool Ja Ja would WANT Estinien to use his full strength and Estinien would almost certainly give it to him given his interest in worthy opponents every now and then.

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Absolutely fair! But at the same time, Gulool Ja Ja is a man absolutely capable of handling raw, brute force (like you said, he fought Valigarmanda, who wasn't exactly dangerous because of intellect), while also being capable of recognizing that strength is more than that.

Exactly what we have over Estinien in this context is... interesting, because that's one of the few scenes in the game with role-based dialog changes: what Gulool highlights as your grestest strength actually changes based on if you're a tank, DPS or healer. But no matter what, he always respects our ability to withstand him in a fight. So if anything, our strength compared to Estinien isn't in power, it's in being able to last longer. Granted, Estinien's fight was called off, so maybe Gulool couldn't be considered an accurate judge of that?

We're very strong by human standards, but not as strong as like, beasts of burden.
Our character is shown carrying very heavy boxes that multiple people would usually struggle with.
Sometimes these quests give you the heavy debuff, to show it's not easy.
We aren't about to beat Gulool Ja Ja in a power lifting contest though I don't think.

Most of our fighting power comes from "skill" enhanced by typical fantasy fighting energy. Chakra or Aether or whatever.
Makes us super hero levels of strong and durable in a fight, but we can be knocked out pretty easily if taken unawares.