Lazy devs and fatigue

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Originally Posted by LotteYanson

Do something else in the game?
Eureka or Bozja
Deepdungeon
Crafting / Gathering
Raiding
Theres so much stuff to do, yet you didnt touch it but complain that you have to do allways the same.
The problem is your attitude...

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again the old stuff ? yeah why wanting actual mattering content ... Do OlD sTuFf. Just for the deepdungeon eureka bozja thing. crafting and gathering is maybe a side job bt not fun for many people. Not everbody want to raid and even if they decide to it they wait 3 hours in pf for a grp not filling. the problem is not the attitude the problem is people defend SE in every thread with old stuff. Like the one guy posted earlyer. WoW introduced delves with the launch which is side content and helpfull for casuals, or rerunning events which helps you get something from the vault. GW2 gives you so much overworld exploration which just make you attach to the environment. What have 14 ? 6 months patch cycle ( close to it i know its not 6 ) with some raid stuff joining and somewhere in the end of .3 one exploration zone ? ofc people will be bored. Old content is boring alone aswell. dont get me wrong i love this game its so freaky important to me. I met my wife here and thats why i want it to be better then WoW GW2 or anything else ...

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Originally Posted by Dante131

again the old stuff ? yeah why wanting actual mattering content ... Do OlD sTuFf. Just for the deepdungeon eureka bozja thing. crafting and gathering is maybe a side job bt not fun for many people. Not everbody want to raid and even if they decide to it they wait 3 hours in pf for a grp not filling. the problem is not the attitude the problem is people defend SE in every thread with old stuff. Like the one guy posted earlyer. WoW introduced delves with the launch which is side content and helpfull for casuals, or rerunning events which helps you get something from the vault. GW2 gives you so much overworld exploration which just make you attach to the environment. What have 14 ? 6 months patch cycle ( close to it i know its not 6 ) with some raid stuff joining and somewhere in the end of .3 one exploration zone ? ofc people will be bored. Old content is boring alone aswell. dont get me wrong i love this game its so freaky important to me. I met my wife here and thats why i want it to be better then WoW GW2 or anything else ...

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People get bored because they're trying to use one game to fill all their gaming desires instead of playing multiple games.

Of course they're going to get bored if they only play the same game over and over to the point they've done all the content they're interested in doing.

I've been taking a break from FFXIV the last 10 days myself and picked up WoW again for the first time in almost 7 years. I'm already finding myself bored, frustrated and disappointed in it in turns, though to be fair I'm playing through Dragonflight content because I haven't purchased the new expansion yet. Will the new expansion be an improvement once I get around to it? Hopefully. Will I decide it's better than FFXIV. I doubt it.

Both games have their strengths and weaknesses but FFXIV still shines brighter for me. But the only way you're going to be able to tell for yourself is to give those other games a try.

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Originally Posted by RinaB

I've been playing pretty steady since 2018 and my drk is the most geared job I have but I prefer to play rpr or sge...the issue is in struggling picking what to main and then I just don't care. From 90 to 100 the job changes were as safe as you could get and it feels like I'm just doing the same old shit as always. Same routine same daily weekly routine it's a very robotic game...why am I paying a sub for robotic game that doesn't even give me the option to exchange tome gear like queaztalli? It's demoralizing you have to grind all the tome gear again for moths...ridiculous

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I think the problem is the fact the game got more and more imbalanced role wise over the years.

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Originally Posted by BunnyQueen

I think the problem is the fact the game got more and more imbalanced role wise over the years.

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I think the problem is there's nothing interesting to do in this game anymore if you've been playing for a while.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

WoW

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YOU DID IT! YOU SAID THE THING! Everything about FFXIV eventually goes back to WoW. The whole reason why this game exists is to fight WoW. FFXIV doesn't have a purpose by itself, it can only be validated when compared to WoW. Otherwise, far less people would actually play it.

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

YOU DID IT! YOU SAID THE THING! Everything about FFXIV eventually goes back to WoW. The whole reason why this game exists is to fight WoW. FFXIV doesn't have a purpose by itself, it can only be validated when compared to WoW. Otherwise, far less people would actually play it.

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Do you have anything interesting to say, or are you so bitter that you just pay your $15 a month to insult people on the forums?

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

People get bored because they're trying to use one game to fill all their gaming desires instead of playing multiple games.

Of course they're going to get bored if they only play the same game over and over to the point they've done all the content they're interested in doing.

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That’s what is often said and probably even a good and healthy approach normally.
The problem is that FF14 is not even full enough to be a side game anymore.

What brings an expansion new?
MSQ
Dungeons
Side quests
EX
Savage
If you are not a raider tough luck there.
Crafting is just a side thing and tbh not very fun for many.
Fates are just the same without even new mechanics.
And leveling all jobs is not content it’s a chore.

So really, you could play five games at the side and FF14 would still be barebones nowadays.
People often use the reasoning of “you can leave and just jump in without falling behind”.
Cool but that is not a MMO but a game made for those who don’t want to play it.

The excuse that people just play too much FF14 really needs to stop.
People ask for more content. Something EVERYONE should be glad about.

I really don’t see a reason why there can’t be a new gold saucer mini game and new rewards there at the start of an expansion.
I don’t see why each expansion can’t have a new mechanic in the over
world like deep diving in stormblood or flying in HW.
I don’t understand why a new expansion can’t use old things like island sanctuary and update them automatically with a new goal to archive.

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Originally Posted by RinaB

I've been playing pretty steady since 2018 and my drk is the most geared job I have but I prefer to play rpr or sge...the issue is in struggling picking what to main and then I just don't care. From 90 to 100 the job changes were as safe as you could get and it feels like I'm just doing the same old shit as always. Same routine same daily weekly routine it's a very robotic game...why am I paying a sub for robotic game that doesn't even give me the option to exchange tome gear like queaztalli? It's demoralizing you have to grind all the tome gear again for moths...ridiculous

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You're beating a dead horse op, I'm gonna put things into perspective for you so that you make the obvious choice ! : 12 bucks a month, one bite of content every 4 months so 48 bucks for around 8 hours of more or less fun content.

There are plenty of awesome games you can buy for that price and after reading your post, i can easily assume that like me, you'll have more fun for a lot more than 8 hours with one of those :D

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

People get bored because they're trying to use one game to fill all their gaming desires instead of playing multiple games.

Of course they're going to get bored if they only play the same game over and over to the point they've done all the content they're interested in doing.

I've been taking a break from FFXIV the last 10 days myself and picked up WoW again for the first time in almost 7 years. I'm already finding myself bored, frustrated and disappointed in it in turns, though to be fair I'm playing through Dragonflight content because I haven't purchased the new expansion yet. Will the new expansion be an improvement once I get around to it? Hopefully. Will I decide it's better than FFXIV. I doubt it.

Both games have their strengths and weaknesses but FFXIV still shines brighter for me. But the only way you're going to be able to tell for yourself is to give those other games a try.

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totally agree and disagree at the same time. I do agree people should try the other ones both wow and gw2 are good games. But in the same time an mmo was always designed too hook players into the game. So the desire for spending all the time in the game is crown in my opinion. My point was and i repeat myself like an old disk was 14 have nothing interesting too offer after the story and peoples only defense for it is go do old stuff. I really like the style ( looks ) of 14 more then the other ones but for know its the only thing 14 is doing better then the other 2. Sure WoW have more budget and probably a bigger team but i cant hear this excuse anymore after so many years. We can stay still or we can evolve and all i would like is seeing 14 evolve and being better then the rest.

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Originally Posted by Dante131

But in the same time an mmo was always designed too hook players into the game.

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That's where FFXIV seems to be different. They got a lot of feedback in 1.0 and changed the game drastically based on that.

The result was a game that respected people's time a lot more than others - such as teleporting everywhere an unlimited amount instead of traveling, only killing 3 enemies for quests, splitting bosses into different instances so you don't feel trapped in a raid for hours, getting rid of pointless time-wasting trash mobs in raids, resetting cooldowns on each wipe, etc. They noticed only spending 12-20 minutes in a dungeon was working well for people and kept it up.

The natural result of that is a game that doesn't require as much time investment as MMORPGs used to.

Arguably, they have sorta been using the same philosophy that games with DLC use and making it more like those, so you play through them then you're done. To a degree. Because there are still events, patches, and ways to play the game all day (such as RP, social content with your FC/CWLS, mount collecting or raid progging).

Right now, I just wish they'd voice things like seasonal events or make them more interesting than just a little sob story where we feel sorry for someone and help them overcome their confidence/sadness dilemmas.