Spooky PvP Week -- 7 days of PvP with 5 different communities!

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Originally Posted by WutWut

Mini queue syncs, which don't use an off-language for filtering, generally due to not having 72 players, have been a thing for years. I don't see the problem at all actually, and it's a really weird hill to call someone a griefer on. How dare people want to... pvp as a community? Play Frontlines for more than a daily roulette? Uh huh.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing people at these spooky events!

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Strike up the band lol! Here comes The March Of The Sock Puppets.

Welcome to the forums.

Ty for the intro, are the forums always this slow? Feels like every page takes 5-10 seconds to load. o_O

Lots of people know who I am. You can call me a sockpuppet if it helps you sleep easier at night tho! Doesn't matter to me. Your story sounds like you interacted with people who were a bit rude in explaining their mini sync, which is a shame. What it does not sound like is griefing. Did they single you out? BM you? Mark you ignore on their team? All of those are examples of griefing. Just queuing up for a game-mode because of a community event is not. Nor do I think it's a justification for calling their events "ghastly".

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Originally Posted by WutWut

Ty for the intro, are the forums always this slow? Feels like every page takes 5-10 seconds to load. o_O

Lots of people know who I am. You can call me a sockpuppet if it helps you sleep easier at night tho! Doesn't matter to me. Your story sounds like you interacted with people who were a bit rude in explaining their mini sync, which is a shame. What it does not sound like is griefing. Did they single you out? BM you? Mark you ignore on their team? All of those are examples of griefing. Just queuing up for a game-mode because of a community event is not. Nor do I think it's a justification for calling their events "ghastly".

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They vote-kicked me from FL twice when I had said nothing in chat and was fully participating. My FC has also suffered harassment.

As to the events, I fully support community-driven ones. The series mentioned in this thread may well be fun, although I'll avoid it for obvious reasons.

What isn't fun is the Princesses trademark: an unfiltered Q-synch featuring a single job, particularly when it is explicitly planned to be as disruptive as possible to the "normals." Such events are "ghastly" IMO for those not in on the alleged joke. And the general disruption produced by unfiltered Q-synchs is explicitly mentioned in the literature for the event promoted in this thread, which I quoted above.

The forums tend to load slow when you first sign up because nothing is cached.

Assuming you're not pushing an agenda, getting vote kicked out of a Frontline probably felt stinky. It has happened to me a total of one time over the years, but I was also kinda being an ass and probably deserved it.

But this feels like a pretty broad brush, unless it's specifically the people in charge at PvP Princesses that kicked you. Queue syncs by their nature bring in a lot of people, some of which are just a bit toxic frankly. I was not there, so I couldn't say either way. But their core leadership really don't feel like that kinda people to me.

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Originally Posted by WutWut

Assuming you're not pushing an agenda, getting vote kicked out of a Frontline probably felt stinky. It has happened to me a total of one time over the years, but I was also kinda being an ass and probably deserved it.

But this feels like a pretty broad brush, unless it's specifically the people in charge at PvP Princesses that kicked you. Queue syncs by their nature bring in a lot of people, some of which are just a bit toxic frankly. I was not there, so I couldn't say either way. But their core leadership really don't feel like that kinda people to me.

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Then we can agree to disagree. I regard that entire Discord server as a nest of vipers.

Incidentally I apologize for the sock puppet comment. Since you're new, you'll be unaware that whenever the Discord Mafia hegemony is challenged, there's invariably a string of new accounts that appear, explaining why we're all idiots. Based on the timing of your account creation, I assumed you were the head of the next conga line.

My "agenda" is lobbying against disruptive gameplay in FL.

FWIW, getting kicked didn't feel "stinky," it felt like and was a ToS violation.

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Originally Posted by WutWut

Ty for the intro, are the forums always this slow? Feels like every page takes 5-10 seconds to load. o_O

Lots of people know who I am. You can call me a sockpuppet if it helps you sleep easier at night tho! Doesn't matter to me. Your story sounds like you interacted with people who were a bit rude in explaining their mini sync, which is a shame. What it does not sound like is griefing. Did they single you out? BM you? Mark you ignore on their team? All of those are examples of griefing. Just queuing up for a game-mode because of a community event is not. Nor do I think it's a justification for calling their events "ghastly".

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Originally Posted by WutWut

Assuming you're not pushing an agenda, getting vote kicked out of a Frontline probably felt stinky. It has happened to me a total of one time over the years, but I was also kinda being an ass and probably deserved it.

But this feels like a pretty broad brush, unless it's specifically the people in charge at PvP Princesses that kicked you. Queue syncs by their nature bring in a lot of people, some of which are just a bit toxic frankly. I was not there, so I couldn't say either way. But their core leadership really don't feel like that kinda people to me.

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This person's idea of disruptive gameplay is just premades in general. I wouldn't exert a lot of effort into discussion.

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Originally Posted by Atreus

This person's idea of disruptive gameplay is just premades in general. I wouldn't exert a lot of effort into discussion.

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Not actually true. Premades change the gameplay, but that impact is a result of poor job balance and the fact rookies and rouletters are placed in the same pool as min-maxing veterans. More importantly, premades are not breaking ToS.

That's a very different situation from a Discord clique deciding to dump 30+ GNB on the field with the intention of being as annoying as possible and guaranteeing the match is largely pointless and goes to time limit. That's simple griefing and thus is arguably breaking ToS. Some clarity on the topic from SQEX would be helpful.

Compounding this abuse by flooding chat as if nobody else is there just advertises the fact the purpose of these events is to disrupt regular games. See the quote from the OPs blurb pimping their event! Responsible Discord servers recognize such practices disrupt the gameplay.

Bro we just want to play the game with our friends. And sometimes we get a laugh over showing up in themed glams and jobs.

"Being intentionally disruptive" isn't a fair description of that. Taking over a post meant to promote community events in order to rant, however...

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Originally Posted by gidsonBrand

Bro we just want to play the game with our friends. And sometimes we get a laugh over showing up in themed glams and jobs.

"Being intentionally disruptive" isn't a fair description of that. Taking over a post meant to promote community events in order to rant, however...

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I dunno, me interacting with your post might be viewed as promoting your event, which I'm fine with.

You seem like an experienced and sensible player. You specifically note that "player language settings are usually altered on top of the usual time call to diminish the risk of disrupting regular Frontline queues and roulettes. Your words not mine.

I don't care what y'all wear when you Q-synch. My point is that the Princesses specifically have a history of deliberately disrupting FL matches through single-job mini Q-synchs. I am expressing the opinion that this is wrong.

You may "get a laugh" from all playing themed jobs. Maybe if the discussion on that server didn't explicitly reference which single job would cause the most disruption, they wouldn't get accused of being disruptive?

Maybe one day we'll have custom matches and these conflicts can be avoided.