Loot System for Savage

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Originally Posted by WhiteFlow

What do you think? Should it stay as it is or should further adjustments be made?

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The main adjustment that has to be made is to promote reclearing content with those who havent cleared it yet, regardless of whether its savage/extreme or normal.

In the current state once you completed the duty, you are promoted to never join one that hasnt completed it yet. Its just less hassle and because they are more likely to have better gear, has a significant advantage even if players were equaly skilled.

Weekly tresholds in the current way are terrible on that. Its counter productive to reclear it. Made even worse when people are progging in m3s and you are still stuck in m2s.

And once the week treshold is reached, you are now permanently behind, there is no way to ever catch up, just because of being unlucky in PF. (and yes, its luck, since anyone decent to clear it, is instantly gone from the pool of potential players that join, once they cleared it). You can be harsh at joining diffirent PFs at the slighest indication of them not being able to clear. But it still has its limits on how effective it is.

Statics are extremely advantageous here, yet the game is completely missing features to promote/aid people to find one. Linkshells/FCs are not effective at all (especialy with how limited we are in numbers here).

The best bet is to just have a friend that can invite you to a party in PF that has its join requirement set to cleared, just to get people of which you know are capable of clearing it. And even then, its limited in effect because of the warning it gives.

Well healer bis is normal 710 boots and crafted gloves. go figure that one out.

When Coil was relevant raid content 10 years ago, you didn't even get books from clearing and the drops were class specific -- so if maiming gear dropped and you didn't have a DRG, then you were out of luck for that floor. Sometimes, you could go weeks of clearing where certain static members would receive nothing because of unlucky drops. The current system was a huge quality of life improvement in comparison.

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Originally Posted by MrSigy

Well healer bis is normal 710 boots and crafted gloves. go figure that one out.

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No healer will be progging the next ultimate in crafted gear lmfao.

1 tomes for access/access upgrade
2 tomes for left side/left side upgrade
4 tomes for weapon
900 weekly tomestone cap

pls SE

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Originally Posted by WhiteFlow

What do you think? Should it stay as it is or should further adjustments be made?

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- Comparing to what it's used to be before (pre-coffer, pre-tomestone beft), it's already very generous.

- FF14's system is the MOST generous system in any of the MMO I've ever played, and I've played most of them.

So here is the question for you: what will the bottom limit on where the system should be? Because I'm 99.9999% sure that even if SE take one more step, you or someone like you will still gonna complain it's not fair enough until you'll get guarantee loot ... which I don't think will happen. I won't say I wish it doesn't happen, but I can say I don't care if it happens.

Lastly, I do think people should be honest about "I want quick and easy loot" instead of pretending it's a fairness issue.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

- Comparing to what it's used to be before (pre-coffer, pre-tomestone beft), it's already very generous.

- FF14's system is the MOST generous system in any of the MMO I've ever played, and I've played most of them.

So here is the question for you: what will the bottom limit on where the system should be? Because I'm 99.9999% sure that even if SE take one more step, you or someone like you will still gonna complain it's not fair enough until you'll get guarantee loot ... which I don't think will happen. I won't say I wish it doesn't happen, but I can say I don't care if it happens.

Lastly, I do think people should be honest about "I want quick and easy loot" instead of pretending it's a fairness issue.

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quick yes
easy no

you still need to clear/reclear each turns, having to wait only make it boring

I think it's fine as is, but books should unlock that gear type for any job IMO. So you get all your books and unlock the fending chest, you can also grab the healing chest too etc.
Still takes the same amount of time to get geared up, but you gear up everything.

Failing that, maybe have follow up pieces discounted... or something?

Not exactly sure how it could be facilitated, but I'd love to help people out after I do my own clears without ending up costing people loot. That's about the only change I'd like to see.

Agreed. I really dislike the rng WITH the item limit aspect.

But keep in mind this is designed so people keep playing on weekly reset and keeping their subscriptions active.