I played the Throne & Liberty beta last week and..

Assuming this isn't a troll post, it's not very hard to beat FFXIV's healer gameplay for most MMO.

Also, if that game is an aRPG, what business does it have being an inspiration for FFXIV? Totally different gameplays.

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Originally Posted by Komarimono

We must have played different games. Last thing I would want as a healer, is only two healing spells, one on a 10 second cooldown and the AoE one on a 40+ second cooldown, if running Wand and Tomb weapons. Even if go Bow and Wand, to get the regeneration, ya....

Def not what I'd want in FFXIV, nor would others want that, since not an action RPG.

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Yep, I wouldnt even call it a healer with how long those cooldowns take. With a good group it isnt bad, but when you have people that dont understand the mechanics or know how to block it makes healing a nightmare.

NCsoft AND Amazon games? LOL run fast and far, as fast and far as you can.

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Originally Posted by Rehayem

Remember this is NCSOFT we're talking about, and they actually do know how to make content or classes enganging. Problem is, it's a Korean MMORPG, meaning it's going to be pay 2 win from the start.

The Auction House (Marketboard) is completely reliant on a currency called Lucent. You can only get this currency by using your wallet, or doing PvP castle sieges at max level. The game is entirely focused on guild wars, meaning the top guild will hold all castles at one point and you won't be able to get stuff done because those don't accept weak players. There's also other methods to farming it in game that I've found here.

The streamer Kanon has been advocating for the game to be less p2w in the West, but we know it's very unlikely to be so. He even attended one of the dev meetups and told them what Western audience already thinks about it: p2w garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go06gADja_Q

People will play it because the market desperately needs another MMORPGs to compete with the "Big 5". Game might not last long in the West because of the entire Lucent system.

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i'm surprised NCsoft still a thing. it has been ages and their games never age well

From the game play section of their website:

"THRONE AND LIBERTY features a class-free system where your weapons decide your role. Combine and configure two different weapons to maximize strength, defense, and damage." (but not healing?)

Out of the weapon options, only the "wand and tome" offer any sort of healing ability "Leverage curses to deal damage, weaken enemies over time, and heal allies in battle." (healing is the least important?)

All in all, sounds like healing is less than an afterthought in the game. I'll pass and stay here.

I saw the title and thought "Is this an MMO that takes place in colonial times? That could be fun."

Then I watched the gameplay footage and saw it's just another generic NCSoft game.

If you wanna leave XIV for this, have fun, but I hope to hell the game has good solo options for you.

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Originally Posted by Malthir

Tbf it is also a tab target game, they just added an action cam that alot of games have done now days. What amazes me is that this is the company that gave us GW2 many many years ago and somehow managed to deliver a combat system of the same vein but infinitely worse than the one they delivered in GW2

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Even more egregious to me is NCsoft apparently won their lawsuit with Bluehole studios over TERA and thus have access to TERA's combat system (which had actual action combat and actual healers in said action combat) and are doing nothing with it even though TERA "stole" it from a Lineage game NCsoft was working on.

I played LOTRO yesterday and would much more want a Minstrel Healer and Warden (Hoplite, spear and shield) tank.

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Originally Posted by Rehayem

Remember this is NCSOFT we're talking about, and they actually do know how to make content or classes enganging. Problem is, it's a Korean MMORPG, meaning it's going to be pay 2 win from the start.

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It's also NCSoft, so they're going to just kill it if it isn't as profitable as their main cash cow, Lineage 2, within 6 months. Look at their track record with:
City of Heroes/Villains
WildStar
Auto Assault
Dungeon Runners
Tabula Rasa
Exteel
Point Blank
Master X Master
FUSER


And how they dealt with Richard Garriott, who sued them -- and won -- for forging his resignation announcement, and was awarded $32M in damages for it.

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Throne and Liberty is an upcoming massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) developed and to be published in South Korea by NCSoft. It is to be published in North America, South America, Europe, and Japan by Amazon Games.

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No red flags at all there.