Dawntrail isn't 10 year plan that we expected it

I wasn't expecting another Shadowbringer/Endwalker so it's easier to not get disappointed I guess.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Ehh while I don’t think that DT sets up “enough”, the Azem shard key is definitely more of a setup than anything to do with zero and the jaunt through the 13th

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Just wait until we get access to shard travel by 7.3 and drop that thing entirely.

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Originally Posted by genuine_stranger

Just wait until we get access to shard travel by 7.3 and drop that thing entirely.

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I mean if we get unrestricted shard travel to the remaining 4/5 shards (we already have access to the first and Alexandria if that is or isn’t the shattered remnants of the 12th or not and while we can traverse the 13th there is no aetheryte we have access to) it’s going to be because of that key so I think that’s a big enough plot point

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Originally Posted by Asari5

there is no 10 year plan

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Nope. They even said in the past that they were kinda making things up as they go along. I guess it's a miracle that we had Shadowbringers at all. lol

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Nope. They even said in the past that they were kinda making things up as they go along. I guess it's a miracle that we had Shadowbringers at all. lol

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Lately I feel like Shadowbringers was but a coincidence

Covid
Excellent Writer
WoW being bad

Was the perfect time for perfect expansion
It is like 0.01 percent in 100 year

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Originally Posted by Tunda

Lately I feel like Shadowbringers was but a coincidence

Covid
Excellent Writer
WoW being bad

Was the perfect time for perfect expansion
It is like 0.01 percent in 100 year

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Honestly?

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Originally Posted by Praesul

We literally only have the base expansion story to go off of and not any of the patch content and you people are already complaining that there's no setup for future story/conflict.

Because in base ARR after we took down Ultima Weapon we totally knew all of the wild rides we'd be on.

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Base ARR was a clear opening for next adventure

But dawntrail wasn't it is a filler with 1% buildup

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Ehh while I don’t think that DT sets up “enough”, the Azem shard key is definitely more of a setup than anything to do with zero and the jaunt through the 13th

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I really hate the DT story but I agree here.
The key is a very good plot devise for the future.

The story itself also gives an interesting tidbit of Alexandria really was from the destroyed shard of the lightning calamity (which was even implied by I think Krile and the time dilation stuff actually makes it possible for the Lalas to travel there after the calamity).
What exactly happens to a shard after a rejoining?

Is is completely destroyed or is there something left and the Ascians just went with „eh Zodiark can fix that after he is free“ which their handling of the thirteens implied.

The DT story sucks in my opinion but I disagree that it doesn‘t that uninteresting things for the future.

I think they have a base plan around it, e.g., with the subtlety of the key sharing the same insignia as the Azem Crystal, this could have some implications which they may explore later down the line. I know the Hydaelyn/Zodiark saga is done, but I wouldn't put it past them to elude to this being part of the reason why the Azem didn't join in on anything.

This is also opens to going around on the 13th, and back to the first later down the line with looking into the Empty and restoring the 13th. I don't think they've done this whimsically, but I think they will only do subtle teasers, and will change the path of their intended story according to that.

Depending on what the rejoinings actually did, something may be done about those..?

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Originally Posted by Praesul

We literally only have the base expansion story to go off of and not any of the patch content and you people are already complaining that there's no setup for future story/conflict.

Because in base ARR after we took down Ultima Weapon we totally knew all of the wild rides we'd be on.

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ARR ended with the Ascians meeting to discuss their next steps on reviving Zodiark and a closing shot of the giant purple crystal we thought was him. I don't get why people keep saying that ARR ended with as little future direction as DT.