7.0 SMN First Impressions

Still struggling to make peace with playing Bahamut Mage for ~2.5 years. Def feels like they skimped out hard on doing anything for summoner. It feels like the only healthy option one has is finding a different job to play.

Ahhh, I remember back on EW launch when people were coping with how simple new SMN was by saying it was just a base for them to build on. Well here we are, they slapped on a single new bahamut shaped brick and called it a day.

I know I wasn’t expecting anything, but damn I’m still disappointed.
8.0 Copium?

I've played every iteration of SMN since ARR, and this is still by far my favorite in terms of job fantasy fulfillment and gameplay. I don't think simple/easy is inherently bad. Solar Bahamut is also just a very welcome addition in my book, because he shows an evolution of what the FFXIV SMN does. Where before we just channel the powers of past primals we've been exposed to, now we're taking what we've learned and mixing it together to create something new, and I think that's neat. That opens up a lot of possibilities, and I look forward to this whole "focus on job identity" they keep mentioning coming later on and seeing where they take this job.

tl;dr, no complaints here.

The SMN update being something an intern probably came up with in 30 minutes is hilarious to me
Perhaps adding more than 1 reskinned primal would take too much dev time? I don't even know, man

So it's the same braindead job as before... what a disappointment.

I was hoping for some mechanical changes but it's pretty much the same... So much for "the rotation will change" that Yoshi-P said in the job action presentation during the letter. It's the same freaking thing with just a new Bahamut skin to press the same buttons again and a little combo with Searing Light that definitely won't make any consequence to the rotation, since you'll want to use it in the buff window anyways.

Being a "turret of summons" with no substance is sadly the way from now on.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

I really hope that if 8.0 is really going to be the “job identity expansion,” that they finally do Levi-Shiva-Ramuh. With the way they’ve rearranged things, it’s the best possible way to add things to the job without a ton of extra buttons, by adding a new triad of gems. And it gives them the possibility of expanding other triads of gems in the future. But without those 3, SMN feels incomplete, especially at level 100. PCT is going to have a full range of elements, and it would only make sense for SMN to have the same.

That said, the new additions don’t really change the job play much for me. I love the job and I’ll still love the job. I just want it to have more!

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The problem is that is a 2.5 year wait playing boring jobs. Everyone across the board, SMN just happened to be the most unfortunate example regarding that.

Was that really a bad thing do focus both encounter and job design at once? Would that be so confusing to players like they said? I don't think... And if by logistics reasons they had to pick one or the other, why didn't they chose job design first? It's literally how the player interacts with the world.

I guess I'm fortunate to be a fan of one of the new jobs (PCT) and that looking incredibly engaging will probably satisfy me for quite a while.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

The problem is that is a 2.5 year wait playing boring jobs. Everyone across the board, SMN just happened to be the most unfortunate example regarding that.

Was that really a bad thing do focus both encounter and job design at once? Would that be so confusing to players like they said? I don't think... And if by logistics reasons they had to pick one or the other, why didn't they chose job design first? It's literally how the player interacts with the world.

I guess I'm fortunate to be a fan of one of the new jobs (PCT) and that looking incredibly engaging will probably satisfy me for quite a while.

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Pretty sure they view the entire player base as a group of mentally deficient toddlers

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Originally Posted by Tsurayu

What exactly did people expect?

The class was entirely redone for Endwalker. Did you really think it was going to get a bunch of changes for Dawntrail after all the work they put into it? Same with Paladin to a lesser degree and the people complaining about how similar it is. Yeah. And? It was almost as big of a redo in Endwalker. We don't fundamentally change the classes every expansion unless our name is Astrologian. <.<

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I was kind of hoping they would finish the job since they stopped at like level 50 in Endwalker.

Pretty sure they are aware of the massige negative feedback this is getting.

It wouldn't surprise me if the job gets some minor but significant tweaks mid expansion.