New Dawntrail Benchmark - Show your WoL's before and after: Part 2

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Originally Posted by Soxforrow

it's the same lighting conditions in both

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Yes... and? Did you forget they overhauled how lighting works in Dawntrail? Lighting isn't now being full blasted in your characters face 24/7 to make it look like a runway model. Lights now work realistically. As in... from the sun.

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Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys

So your complaint is the shadow.

Before the updated benchmark, people were whining about the lack of shadows.

Pick one.

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Nope, the puffy "looks-like-she-swallowed-a-bee" cheeks, the exaggerated dimples and that duck-face look were points of contention right from the start, for both Miqos and Au Ras. Don't distort the discussion just to create a false narrative that serves you.

(Edit: Those do not seem to be lighting problems but model problems. Because they were already there under the first benchmark's lighting conditions.)

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Originally Posted by Soxforrow

it's the same lighting conditions in both

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It may be the same conditions… but now the lighting and shadow placement is more accurate so once again… have to wait for proper release where the sun is more an angle and you can position yourself.

Eyes are better than benchmark 1 and about on par with the live game. Lighting is better than benchmark 1, and better than live. Lip texturing is better than benchmark 1 but worse than live. Overall midlander #1 still has a lot of problems. Nose hasn't change since benchmark 1 and is very far of the original nose, and it looks worse. Lips are still quite far of the original lips, and they look worse. The optional face detail eyeliner is more smudgy, the darker line at the bottom outer eyelid on live looks better. Lot of other smaller differences that change the overall shape of the face for the worse.

https://i.postimg.cc/HsnWCh2m/new-benchmark.png

I am happy with my Hyur just not sure which face as the lips have changed somewhat. I used to love face 2 on my Midlander female but there is still a change. I was hoping for more pale pinks and deep reds on the lips but I can manage and get used to it. Is it me or are the lip shades mainly beige brown? not soft pink gloss.

Oh and reading above post on your Hyur I agree the nose does look a little diff to me also.

https://i.imgur.com/nelsnQP.png

update good

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Originally Posted by Soxforrow

it's the same lighting conditions in both

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The problem is, the lighting in the live game is a completely clusterfuck. It produces so many errors in many common situations. A better lighting may feel unfamiliar for the first week or so.




Cheers

https://i.imgur.com/s9tgMiH.png

Looks fine to me. Maybe I'll change the lips color.

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Originally Posted by Loggos

Nope, the puffy "looks-like-she-swallowed-a-bee" cheeks, the exaggerated dimples and that duck-face look were points of contention right from the start, for both Miqos and Au Ras. Don't distort the discussion just to create a false narrative that serves you.

(Edit: Those do not seem to be lighting problems but model problems. Because they were already there under the first benchmark's lighting conditions.)

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I'm... not. Its literally a shadow creating the illusion of lips being sucked in. If you pull the models from the files you literally see the exact model. Theres nothing wrong with them. If you shine a light down at the top of someones head, their face is going to be covered in shadows if the light above the head is the only light source.

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Originally Posted by aiqa

Eyes are better than benchmark 1 and about on par with the live game. Lighting is better than benchmark 1, and better than live. Lip texturing is better than benchmark 1 but worse than live. Overall midlander #1 still has a lot of problems. Nose hasn't change since benchmark 1 and is very far of the original nose, and it looks worse. Lips are still quite far of the original lips, and they look worse. The optional face detail eyeliner is more smudgy, the darker line at the bottom outer eyelid on live looks better. Lot of other smaller differences that change the overall shape of the face for the worse.

https://i.postimg.cc/HsnWCh2m/new-benchmark.png

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I'm feeling in a similar way about my hyurs.

I like the new lighting, hair textures, even skin texture. I can accept the slight changes in the eyes, it's okay.
But I just can't stand the lips. They've lost their original shape to become uncute and bigger, and they're ruining every character for me...

Clover
https://64.media.tumblr.com/19acce0e...b2f952f35b.pnj

Juliet
https://64.media.tumblr.com/167b07db...298e618189.pnj

But the winner of the lips nightmare is my Viera. She's lost her subtle smile and looks pissed now, which I could accept if the new shape didn't look plain uncute. Also, the lips colour has lost the reflections that made the texture look softer and gradient.
https://64.media.tumblr.com/dbed768e...a32cb4e6e2.pnj

So my opinion is that graphics look better, but characters don't...

EDIT: Extra: My Viera wants to eat your children.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...a336a6d31c850&