Remove moggle tome events from frontline

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

Last week my 20 mogtome challenge was to do the PvP "Hidden Gorge". During peak hours on Saturday I queued for a half hour, and at that point there was still an estimate of "More than 30 minutes". I realized there was no guarantee that it would ever pop and that I was wasting my day waiting, so I turned it off.

All of which is to say, I wholeheartedly support removing PvP from mogtomes.

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Ah now, if we're putting the shoe on the other foot, we should avoid running before we can walk lest we throw the baby out with the bath water.

I was certainly unimpressed in Genesis I to discover my 50 tome special was to go Ocean Fishing.

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

Last week my 20 mogtome challenge was to do the PvP "Hidden Gorge". During peak hours on Saturday I queued for a half hour, and at that point there was still an estimate of "More than 30 minutes". I realized there was no guarantee that it would ever pop and that I was wasting my day waiting, so I turned it off.

All of which is to say, I wholeheartedly support removing PvP from mogtomes.

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It mainly pops on primal. Don't know which server you're on

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

I think it might be useful to ask why they don't care. I find it pretty hard to believe they're going to bang on ~30 matches to get a shitty carbuncle earring.

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Because they don't like pvp. They are just there for the reward. That's it. The actual reward received - 3 vs 5 mogtomes - doesn't matter. even xp reward, from daily bonus. they don't care about the mode. they don't care about putting any effort in.

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Originally Posted by ChrysOCE

Because they don't like pvp. They are just there for the reward. That's it. The actual reward received - 3 vs 5 mogtomes - doesn't matter. even xp reward, from daily bonus. they don't care about the mode. they don't care about putting any effort in.

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Apparently so. You'd think people who don't like PvP might do something else instead. Auto-piloting Praetorium must be less unpleasant than having Olivia yell at you.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

Apparently so. You'd think people who don't like PvP might do something else instead. Auto-piloting Praetorium must be less unpleasant than having Olivia yell at you.

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It's easy rewards for minimal effort, whether you win or lose. The rewards from 2nd/3rd place are no different to them. And the ones that hate pvp, will queue for the rewards and will actively undermine the effort, because they hate pvp and feel resentment for being there. There are so many sources of XP in this game, so do something else!. Same with mogtomes. You can put less effort into Prae, overall, for more rewards. It's just such a drain, when you have a critical mass of these people on your team.

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Originally Posted by Shikiseki

I'll take the mogtomes into casual CC play if you don't want them in Frontlines lol ;3

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im all for this chaos! :D

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Originally Posted by ChrysOCE

It's easy rewards for minimal effort, whether you win or lose. The rewards from 2nd/3rd place are no different to them. And the ones that hate pvp, will queue for the rewards and will actively undermine the effort, because they hate pvp and feel resentment for being there. There are so many sources of XP in this game, so do something else!. Same with mogtomes. You can put less effort into Prae, overall, for more rewards. It's just such a drain, when you have a critical mass of these people on your team.

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This is my argument. If you don’t want to be in PvP, why do it?
“It’s easy xp” so is MSQ roulette.

It's unfortunate, but the ugly truth is that they already opened Pandora's proverbial box on this one, and I find it highly unlikely that they will ever discontinue Frontlines and Hidden Gorge (literally the only natural way it even queues) from the Mogtome events when it was always a part of it from the 2nd, if not the 1st event.

I will note that early-on I believe they gave away the same amount mogtomes regardless of if you won or lost, and did eventually cave and made it so you received more for winning. Though I personally find 3 tomestones to be way too generous when you only get 5 for winning. It should be like 2 for losing, and maybe even only 1 if you're last place in FL. And no, that wouldn't kill the mode; FL constantly queues during active hours with or without the Mogtome event. It would just dissuade the 0-effort mogtomers from taking-up spots and not even putting an effort.

Instead if you lose a match in frontlines you get no exp, no tomes and no event rewards, no achievement's etc. but if you win then x2.

sick of people ending with 5k damage 0/10 and "luls its just frontlines bro xd"

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

I'd be fine with removing them. The situation is being compounded by several win-farming, noob-stomping, finger-lickin premades who at least seem to be enjoying themselves.

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Think rival wings has this issue too, I've been losing so bad no matter how good I play or how well my callouts are, base getting constantly attacked and my team just feeding.

It's funny, made a post asking for more activity for RW in the form of a roulette, then I get my more activity and it's absolutely miserable. Careful what you wish for people :(