Keep SMN rez for 8.0

As a SMN main from ARR, am for Keeping Rez, its a life saver when and if the healer go down, and it kinda makes SMN and RDM nice utility Casters, as BLM is pure power

I've mainly played summoner since 2.0 and I've raised people maybe like 20 times tops. It's just useless, in not concerned with rez when I'm playing summoner. It worked nicely in Bozja content but they could just give everyone a raise action or something.

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Originally Posted by DNation

If they feel it's overtuned, I understand them needing to make some uncomfy decisions. Rather than asking for the raise never be taken away, I'd alternately propose that they add a pseudo-healer phase that you would never normally use if things are going well, but rather gives the option to eat an Ifrit/Garuda/Titan phase in exchange for a demi-Eos/Selene/Seraph... or, I dunno, demi-Moggle Mog or something. It'd be a trade up to lower your DPS for that phase, but get an actual effective Physick for its duration (or some such other healing tool) and access to a Raise. Would sting less than having it taken away completely.

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Oooooh, I like this a lot! If they don't want Resurrection to be a normal spell that Summoners can cast all the time, that's one thing, but don't take away their ability to revive completely. Summoners in Final Fantasy are supposed to be versatile, and serve a supportive role as well as dealing damage. Heck, by all rights the Phoenix summon ought to be a mass resurrection, but I understand that would be pretty darn broken in this game. At least they gave it a tiny heal effect.

I would rather them lose and Rez and gain damage. There shouldn't be a non-damage utility that only certain jobs within a role have access to. Other roles don't deal with this. Melee and physical ranged is all balanced around their personal damage, and the damage buffs they provide to the party. Rez does nothing when the party doesn't need it.

Please remove on SMN. Give them more damage or utility that makes sense to their core identity. Its silly how people separate casters with rezzes rather than overall utility.

Personality Im kinda in the middle over this debate, but I lean slightly on the side of getting rid of not only smn but also rdm rez. So I understand the side who wants to keep it. The rez has always made rdm and smn stand out from blm and everything. Here's the thing about the caster rez, I feel it is the one single most important reason why the caster role is so poorly balanced when compared to the other roles. Expac after expac we see the same thing happen among the casters, players who enjoy BLM always get picked over smn/rdm bc everyone in this community puts so much value into the combat rez to fix mistakes doing prog. Yeah, it's nice to have that safely net but it does force ppl to play an smn or rdm just to get into groups a lot of times. This could get even worse now we have Picto coming out. Picto as we know won't have a rez but I doubt Picto will be doing BLM numbers either so there is a high chance Picto is going to be left on the sidelines since prog groups will want smn/rdm for the rez and clear/speed groups will want blm for the high melee like dam. Yeah, groups could run double caster but so many ppl out there who would rather run double melee over double caster/phy range. So yeah as long as caster rez is around I see the balance for the casters not getting any better. Im lucky enough tho where Im in a laid-back static who doesn't care if I run as smn/rdm. They just want me to play whatever I find fun and smn/rdm isn't that for me. I have high hopes Picto will be my new fav caster since my baby smn was reduced to such a sorry state in EW.