A case for Phantom Train (Sigmascape v1.0) being one of the most creative encounters

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Originally Posted by Aravell

Because of the community hyperfixation on damage numbers above all, we can no longer have any creative fights that assign separate roles to each person (some of which are forced to lose damage when performing said roles).

That said, the one thing I hated about Phantom Train is that anyone with the Saintly Beam can grief the physical ranged directly by destroying the ghost boxes.

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you should try p10s and p12s

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Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu

It seems to me the problem is more that "the community" uses the wrong baseline when talking about damage. For example, if an encounter picks someone out to play a particular role that forces them to disengage from the boss, the comparison should be against other players who were also chosen to play that same role — not players who had the choice of maintaining uptime, and not some idealized fight against a striking dummy. What's the best that you can do given the hand that you were dealt?

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This is a community that thinks AST cards should always give damage or it sucks. Because they consider drawing The Balance as baseline and not the RNG bonus that it's meant to be.

It's hopeless to try and convince them of anything. Whatever makes them do less damage is already immediately seen as a damage loss and will be hated.

I guess ultimate fights could also enter that category in a way, but they are more of a medley of everything that came in a series before.

Still, they probably do qualify for whole sagas with a lot of variations and things happening within a single fight, so i'll shove them with it as well even if I don't like the mode itself for different reasons.

The fight is also cool because it has an easter egg. Instead of a ghost someone else can appear in one of the wagons.

One of the few duties where bluemage saintly beam 600 potencyupgrade against undead is useful.

Stormblood was obsessed with knockback mechanics in their encounters, despite the fact that neither DRK nor Physical Ranged had access to knockback immunity. The timing of the ghost knockback on O5S was particularly unintuitive if you wanted to negate it with Plunge to maintain uptime, as you had to go based off of the animation and not the castbar.

The fight was also let down by the fact that Godbert didn't show up to suplex the train at the close of the fight.