Benchmark/Graphics Update - Lip shape concern and eyes

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Originally Posted by suikka

I noticed this on my viera too and thought I was just going crazy; I'm lucky that he otherwise looks great and not all that different from his old self but I'm gonna be a little sad if he loses his beautiful mouth shape :(

https://i.imgur.com/GJWI7kU.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/QZGeXIq.png

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Face 3 mouth was literally perfect we have been robbed.

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Originally Posted by SpiritMuse

My main issue with the eyes, and this seems to be happening on Viera and Elezen the most, is that the top half is way too dark compared to the bottom half, which makes pupils indistinct and makes eyes look half closed which gives the character a very different expression.

Like left and right here does not have the same energy/personality, even though all the settings are exactly the same. And there is no setting that can change this, because all eyes look like this. If this is not adjusted, my character that I've been for almost 10 years is effectively dead.

https://i.imgur.com/isztwft.jpg

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This is definitely something that's happened on my miqo'te (face 4 male). His eyes look lowered in a sense? Less alert and more sleepy or worse now. The eyes also look dimmer/flatter(?) because of it.

Female Miqo'te face 4 lips have an issue. The mouth had a slight gap, showing the teeth now that's been removed. :mad:
I would post pics but I play on ps5 saw it in another thread called
7.0 F Miqo'te face 4 feedback the link is below

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ace-4-feedback

I definitely second the lips thing. My character's curved mouth is one of his signature traits to me, he looks kind of like a different person with a perfectly straight mouth.
Here's a direct comparison:
https://i.postimg.cc/QMDKTQvM/crinit...mparison-2.png

And a smile from the benchmark vs. one from in game:
https://i.postimg.cc/Dz7mZ2bJ/ffxiv-...4-15-12-14.png
https://i.postimg.cc/XJmCXRbR/ffxiv-...1-12-41-36.png

Another thing I'd like to mention is that the lips look much less shiny and more matte, and from what I've seen this affects all characters. I love the glossy look on the lips currently in the game (see my last screenshot above, his lips are VERY shiny and reflective), and it's kind of sad to see them toned down so much.

Here's hoping they will work on this and make our characters as pretty as they were before!

I checked Female Viera Face 4 and Female Seeker Face 1 immediately and the Seeker lips are missing the shine that seemed to give them a feel of dimension and depth. The Viera lips, however, look blobby and without any sort of definition to them at all. I'd love to see a gloss/shine option added back on because without that, it seems like the light doesn't quite strike the lips well enough to bring out any of the high graphical detail we'd been hoping for.

I'd also hoped for better refinement on the hands and feet, which there is some improvement from the current (very blocky) fingers we have, but I'd like to see a bit more and perhaps some more definition on nail beds.

I'll start with saying that overall I think it's an improvement for most characters, and a huge improvement for the game in general: it looks more vibrant and the added depth was really needed.

However there's a character of mine for whom I'm really not convinced. It's basically a completely different person:

https://zupimages.net/up/24/15/c6ju.png

It changed her eyes color, skin tone, hair color (and the haircut looks more defined but flatter somehow?), her eyebrows look more like make up than actual eyebrows, her mouth looks smaller and her face is so round now that she went from young adult to teenager.
Also not fond of the pearly eye-shadow. I'd prefer if it were an option rather than forced, considering I wouldn't give her make up at all if I could.
(I played the cutscene and she doesn't look like herself in it either so it's not just the lighting in CC.)

I also think that the clan mark on miqo'tes as well as freckles in general need more definition, it's a bit jarring how blurry they are now that everything else looks more detailed:

https://zupimages.net/up/24/15/6a6q.png

That might be in the plans already though.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLJCzxja...png&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLJC4Yob...png&name=small

Lalafells look quite good with their mouths closed but when they open their mouth it isn't as wide as it should be and their lips curl in an unnatural way. It bothers me.

Something went really wrong with the Viera. Their face, male and female, seems more round overall, which feels weird since they're basically 2m (if you don't count the ears) tall toned humans and they went to the round more "cute" face, that totally don't match the general aesthetic of Vieras. When you look at @Sheikhan screens, their face seems larger, their cheek seem larger. Also their eyes seem more appart, which doesn't help the whole "the face has been stretched". For most of the Viera I've seen, pre update looks far better.

The mouth on au ra face 2 looks completely different and I'm so sad about it.

https://i.imgur.com/NZTVggk.png

It's going to make all the facial expressions different too. It looks like she's got this weird smug cat smile now...

https://i.imgur.com/XcxFhiy.png

F!Viera face four mouths lost all definition, they had a nice almond shape with sharp corners before and now they just look weirdly blob-shaped.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/79a3c109...1d85130ea6.pnjhttps://64.media.tumblr.com/61805427...3d8270ec02.pnj

This affects all the different mouth shapes and it kind of makes them look like she had a rlly bad botox injection which just completely changes the face imho.

It would also be nice if freckles did get more definition, they were kinda hard to see before but even with the darkest colour available they are even more getting lost now in all the other shiny new textures.