Instant Portraits - Annoying??

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Originally Posted by Doozer

I've never understood why other people seem to struggle with such a basic system. The only way I end up with a broken portrait is if I, for example, get new gear for BRD and then later on quickly update my gear for DNC and then queue for something without checking it. The system isn't broken, you're just lazy with no problem solving skills.

Here's a tip, though: If your portrait says it's fine but you know it isn't (i.e. you just changed something) or want to be certain, use visor or show/hide hat, update it, then revert the change if you wanted it a specific way. Then you're fine. It's not that hard. If doing that is Too Annoying then I truly don't know how you ever survive doing anything that has more than one step. If that's too hard, just don't bother with it then. Leave it default. No one else cares.

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I never understood why devs can't program such simple thing as an automatic gear sync, and use portrait only as pose-save, and update gear look, instead of meaning-less generation of default pose in new gear. And stop to annoy players with a clunky design.

I like to change my glamour... So l just learned to ignore it and deal with having mugshot.

I tend to play a variety of jobs in the game so I like making portraits for each but it's annoying that any small change you make breaks them. Change your visor or hide your weapon at any point? Broken. I believe even extracting materia does it. Basically anything that makes you click the icon to save the outfit but then you have to turn the portrait off then on again for it to actually work.

I'd like an option to use adv. Plate portrait as instant portrait regardless of gear or job etc... I don't bother with my portraits half the time cuz im tired of having to constantly update them because I changed my melds or toggled visor

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Originally Posted by fantasiaaddict

some people will never know how easy it is to fix portraits and use them the way the developers intended with the character menu, but most of you still make macros to put glamour plates on your jobs when the game can literally do it for you, learn how to do that first

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I don't have glamours linked via macros. As it is now, if I change a glamour, materia or piece of armor, I have to:

1) Click the 'update gear' button
2) Open portraits, go into edit, click save - despite the fact that nothing has changed aside from gear

While it's only a few button clicks, it's clunky. The updating process should just happen behind the scenes.

Using a fantasia is also annoying. It's tedious having to click through each job and "restore default settings", even on jobs that already use default settings. Either I do that, or I get to deal with a pop-up telling me my portrait is an issue when I switch to my gathering & crafting jobs.

The system has a lot of jank. Having a functional portrait shouldn't require much thought outside of what you want your picture to look like.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I kinda just wish you could use one portrait for everything and not have to deal with it breaking because you slotted a materia on some random item

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With the first iteration of the portrait system, you could save multiple pictures and apply them as you wanted. It still had issues, but what we have now has always felt like a step backwards to me.

Adventurer plates and the beta for portraits prove that they could do portraits correctly but just choose not to.

Having them be tied to gearsets and needlessly making it so your gear has to match but the portrait doesn't auto update with the gearsets (or just keep working) so you have to go in a whole different menu and find that gearset's portrait to update it manually which makes it easy to forget and you only find out there's a problem after you queue into something and see that's it's broken but you can't fix it in a duty so you have to do the whole duty before you can fix it and it only shows you yours at the start and not the end so it's easy to forget again that it's broken and queue for something else without fixing it again and most people eventually just give up on it because it's such a player-unfriendly system with too many rules for something so minor and it doesn't even completely stop people from making weird portraits where their face is covered or whatever so the justification that your portrait has to look exactly like you do right at that moment so people who can't read names or understand job icons can comm the right person doesn't even hold up well so it would be nice if they'd relax the rules a bit or just make it work like an adventurer plate where you can set it and forget it.

Honestly I feel you should be able to set them and even if the gear is different it won't be mad. Yes it would be a bit weird if you are super different looking but that's fine.. better than the feature breaking because you sneezed.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Switching jobs isn't what breaks it – the trigger is changing the appearance of the gear in your current gearset (or your actual character appearance) compared to the last time you saved your portrait. If you switch any gear and don't reapply the same glamours to match what is in the portrait, even if the item isn't visible in the portrait, that is what causes it to break.

Fixing it requires you to save the updated gearset, then go to "edit portrait" and save it even if you're not manually changing anything in the portrait.

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And changing jobs changes my current gearset and its appearance. So, my post still stands.

There are far too many conditions that break things, it's way too sensitive to any change in the gear that has nothing to do with the glamour itself.

Hopefully All of 6.x was the "beta" period and that we will get something better in 7.x.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

And changing jobs changes my current gearset and its appearance. So, my post still stands.

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No, you're misunderstanding how things are connected up.

Each gearset has its own portrait. You could have gearset with a working portrait and another gearset with a non-working portrait, and if you switched between them and went into duties you would see that it works or doesn't work or works again accordingly.

Equip gearset X, and the system tries to load portrait X for duties. The portrait saves its own list of what you were wearing when you saved the portrait, and if your current gear doesn't match, the portrait breaks.

Switch to gearset Y, and the game now uses portrait Y. It doesn't matter whether portrait X was working or not, now it checks whether your clothing matches portrait Y.

You can't break a portrait by switching gearsets. It's all about the appearance of the equipment you're wearing right now compared to the portrait linked your current gearset – every piece of jewellery, even your invisible hat – needs to match what was saved to the portrait.

To be clear, I'm not defending the current system. It's shockingly clunky even if you understand how it works, but at least understanding it lets you get your portrait working some of the time.