Easy housing sollution

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Originally Posted by Oizen

The unique housing expierence of this game is utter dogshit and not worth perserving. I'd rather this game do what thousands of other games do better rather than be convinced this system is worth anything.

Current system is just a love letter to toxic elitists who think the artifical scarcity is a good thing, or just people who bot and exploit it. Burn it to the ground please.

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Dead on 100%

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Originally Posted by SXTC

I would very much enjoy it if the mods on these forums had a zero tolerance for toxic behavior and just banned everyone that behaved like a 3 year old.
Several people have been taking everything so damn personal lately but that still doesn't give them the right to disrespect other people.
People here all love Square enix and FFXIV and since they pay for their subscription its only normal they get a right to voice their opinion on the game or make a couple of suggestions which according to them might improve the experience for those that may be frustrated about something.

Don't like something said? Either reply respectfully like an adult or don't reply at all please. Last thing we need right now is everyone starting to sound like the average league of legend player.

On a personal note. Oizen I can sense a lot of frustration in your reply but I also see your point which is why I suggested a revamp which pretty much comes down to your "burning everything down" comment xD

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Funny. In another topic on housing you outright disrespected people who posted their opinions saying that you told your fc you would be attacked.

Also yes, people do pay their subs which means you got no more right to tell them how you want them to respond then they do. You honestly might need to bite your tongue and just discuss with people and not keep saying this stuff.

Everyone has an opinion. These forums are also known to have lots of trolls and stuff who will try to set you off. However, this is the 2nd housing topic I've seen thus far from you where no one has trolled you or anything.

Just you whining because most didn't agree with you and had differing view points.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

I would very much enjoy it if the mods on these forums had a zero tolerance for toxic behavior and just banned everyone that behaved like a 3 year old.

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You'd be among the first to be banned, though. I wouldn't mind it.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

First thing I told my friends was that first thing that would happen is me getting rude replies from people who likely abuse the system since they'd feel personally attacked xD

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Here's you calling everyone who disagrees with you abusers because you can't handle criticism and don't know how to counter opposing views.

Why would everyone not then flock to that new ward to bid? I would see in your notion that even those that currently own a small or a medium would ALSO bid against you in your new ward in hopes they can wrangle this new plot type.

In my experience just putting about 40 wards and ditching the workshop connection to housing would probably meet the supply of people actually using housing for living in. A lot of folks I notice tend to get a house...then realize they have zero desire to decorate it. Let alone will spend any time at their home because lets be real - most the playerbase gathers where they can get stuff done such as aetherytes.

Footnote - this is not a unique system LOTRO/DAOC did it first.

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Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse

Footnote - this is not a unique system LOTRO/DAOC did it first.

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Aion had it too. FFXIV is currently the only running game with a system like this as far as I am aware.

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Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse

Why would everyone not then flock to that new ward to bid? I would see in your notion that even those that currently own a small or a medium would ALSO bid against you in your new ward in hopes they can wrangle this new plot type.

In my experience just putting about 40 wards and ditching the workshop connection to housing would probably meet the supply of people actually using housing for living in. A lot of folks I notice tend to get a house...then realize they have zero desire to decorate it. Let alone will spend any time at their home because lets be real - most the playerbase gathers where they can get stuff done such as aetherytes.

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I don't think there's that much general demand left to be met outside of Balmung and Mateus.

It's the size specific demand that isn't getting met and adding more wards won't fix that without creating new problems (such as leaving many currently full wards half empty as current small owners upgrade to medium/large).

I've met a lot of players who don't decorate when they first get their house not due to a lack of desire but from not knowing how to get started and a fear that they'll do it "wrong" somehow. I've had friends set me up as tenant in their new house to get me to decorate for them but I try to trick them into doing it with me so they get a feel for it. Most of the time they've taken over after I've helped get them through some basic decorating and demonstrated a few of the tricks.

As for getting stuff done, an aetheryte is not the place to do it lol. PF is far more useful than shout chat and PF can be accessed from any non-instanced area. Shout chat is limited to what's happening in that single zone.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I don't think there's that much general demand left to be met outside of Balmung and Mateus.

It's the size specific demand that isn't getting met and adding more wards won't fix that without creating new problems (such as leaving many currently full wards half empty as current small owners upgrade to medium/large).

I've met a lot of players who don't decorate when they first get their house not due to a lack of desire but from not knowing how to get started and a fear that they'll do it "wrong" somehow. I've had friends set me up as tenant in their new house to get me to decorate for them but I try to trick them into doing it with me so they get a feel for it. Most of the time they've taken over after I've helped get them through some basic decorating and demonstrated a few of the tricks.

As for getting stuff done, an aetheryte is not the place to do it lol. PF is far more useful than shout chat and PF can be accessed from any non-instanced area. Shout chat is limited to what's happening in that single zone.

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This isn't true of everyone. Lots have fc and non fc housing just to own the virtual plot and never play. Don't decorate etc.

Ya could always put up a pf offering to help new homeowners with decorating

A small is fine. It's just a matter of preference

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

A small is actually good enough if you learn to decorate right and is a literal stepping stone to getting gil reduced if you win a lottery to relocate the small to a bigger plot.

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I wonder how people would react if players and FCs were:

• required to own and build on a small lot before being able to bid on a medium, and
• required to own and build on a medium lot before being able to bid on a large.

Naturally, if you managed to upgrade, you'd lose your previous lot (with all the furnishing transferring into storage on the new lot).

Of course, this would only really apply to new subdivisions.