7.0 Summoner abandoned job or not

I know they won’t, but I wonder if they would allow us to choose which summons are associated with each Demi summon.

I assume if we get shiva, leviathan, and ramuh, that they’ll have their own variation of the 1-2 combo.

Could make fights feel more fun if we can choose when we use summons with more instant casts vs hard casts.

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Originally Posted by Flana

The difference between SMN and MCH is that SE can staple the remaining ARR primals on as a literal copy/paste of the first 3 after Phoenix and the forums will spend the next 6 months raving about how it 'saved' Summoner and the job is now 'so fresh' compared to EW. Flash doesn't last forever though so they'll be in the exact same spot for 8.0.

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The same people complaining now will be complaining until the end of time, even if they revert all the changes because it doesn't have true pet mechanics or it doesn't have enough DoTs or something they added isn't good enough for should have been something else. So no, people that are unsatisfied now will not be saying anything about how it saved SMN.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

The same people complaining now will be complaining until the end of time, even if they revert all the changes because it doesn't have true pet mechanics or it doesn't have enough DoTs or something they added isn't good enough for should have been something else. So no, people that are unsatisfied now will not be saying anything about how it saved SMN.

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popi-popi
What you say is embarrassing.

If people are complaining about this smn it is simply because of the fact is that it is a steaming pile of shit. Emptying does not mean solving.

Old smn players were used to a certain rate of complexity. That has been completely eliminated.
Old smn players used to think.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

The same people complaining now will be complaining until the end of time, even if they revert all the changes because it doesn't have true pet mechanics or it doesn't have enough DoTs or something they added isn't good enough for should have been something else.

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Speaking as someone who played old SMN only super casually, and I play almost all the jobs sometimes just because I like glamming them if nothing else - I can't stand to play current SMN long enough to enjoy even that. There's just nothing going on with it, its every job mechanic feels like fluff. I basically got mad I had made a nice glamour for it to the point I repurposed it for SCH instead, just to get to look at it sometimes.

I don't think I ask a lot from most DPS jobs, but there has to be something to keep you from falling asleep.

It real says a lot that there is a legitimate argument that the healer is the better half of that duo

A HEALER beating anything in 14 is a legit joke

I mean to be fair, it's kind of completely interchangeable which healer I play. The whole role is kind of my comfort one when I just want to hang back through a duty not focusing too hard on any one thing. But hey, if you enjoy glamour you can pick out of the four basically based on which one you want to look at.

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Originally Posted by rawker

Arcanist needs to be adjusted to be a full pet based class, Carbuncle auto attacks included, while SMN and SCH will only add flavor on top of it to establish identity.

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no, unless they fix pet ghosting absolutely not, thats all in beast master now for gimmic,mky stuff that doesnt "matter"

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Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty

Speaking as someone who played old SMN only super casually, and I play almost all the jobs sometimes just because I like glamming them if nothing else - I can't stand to play current SMN long enough to enjoy even that. There's just nothing going on with it, its every job mechanic feels like fluff. I basically got mad I had made a nice glamour for it to the point I repurposed it for SCH instead, just to get to look at it sometimes.

I don't think I ask a lot from most DPS jobs, but there has to be something to keep you from falling asleep.

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Its because your pet refusing to do one of its enkindle abilities before you transition losing you a full stack of ruin during shb was awful, it was not "mastery" it was dealing with an awful mechanic that doesnt work, more frustrating than it was fufilling.

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Originally Posted by 4clubbedace

no, unless they fix pet ghosting absolutely not, thats all in beast master now for gimmic,mky stuff that doesnt "matter"





Its because your pet refusing to do one of its enkindle abilities before you transition losing you a full stack of ruin during shb was awful, it was not "mastery" it was dealing with an awful mechanic that doesnt work, more frustrating than it was fufilling.

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The pet ghosting is 99% causes by the Demi’s which is their own fault, SCH only really ever ghosts around seraph which is also a Demi

They created their own problem

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Originally Posted by 4clubbedace

Its because your pet refusing to do one of its enkindle abilities before you transition losing you a full stack of ruin during shb was awful, it was not "mastery" it was dealing with an awful mechanic that doesnt work, more frustrating than it was fufilling.

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well congrats now nothing about current SMN is fulfilling :)

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Originally Posted by VentVanitas

well congrats now nothing about current SMN is fulfilling :)

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un fuffilling, but actually usable now