All The Doom Threads Are Strange To Me

They're the minority. You can see from the 3 fanfests that the fanbase is still very strong.

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Originally Posted by Doozer

Island Sanctuary, variant dungeons, Eureka Orthos, MSQ normal dungeons/trials, alliance raids, tribal quests... there was plenty of 'non-hardcore' content. Especially considering the hardcore content was basically Savage and Ultimate.

Also, have you done literally every single thing there is to do in the game up to Endwalker? Everything? Every single quest, achievement, etc.? Because you can still do old content in Endwalker. You're not locked out. I seriously doubt there's absolutely nothing for you to do currently in-game. If you find there's nothing you want to do, yes, go play something else. That's normal behaviour. If you're so attached to the game that you're mad because you can't find anything to enjoy anymore, that's not SE's problem. It's you.

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this is kind of a bad take mate.
the content of this xpac is pretty doable within a week of it launching, your ideal of content is do ever side quest and get every achievement? sure guys if you dont kill all the s ranks 5000 times you still have content to do.. repetition is not content.. if you play the game when content comes out you already completed old content, so saying go do old stuff is redundant right?
December 7, 2021, thats when endwalker launched. its 2024.

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

this is kind of a bad take mate.
the content of this xpac is pretty doable within a week of it launching, your ideal of content is do ever side quest and get every achievement? sure guys if you dont kill all the s ranks 5000 times you still have content to do.. repetition is not content.. if you play the game when content comes out you already completed old content, so saying go do old stuff is redundant right?
December 7, 2021, thats when endwalker launched. its 2024.

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If repetition isn't content, then isn't ALL content in the game just one-and-done? Aren't all relic grinds of the past that have been praised as 'good content' just repition of stuff youve already done 20 times over? What's the difference between repitition for achievement kind and repitition for stuff like relics or grinds in exploratory zones?

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

knowing that this thread is just bait; here we go..
i hear plenty of valid criticism of the game, not so much doom saying.
you say there is loads of content, but lets take the patch thats dropping as an example: What are we getting?
-2 hours of a MSQ (probably being generous)
-1 hour of a hildi quest
- 1500 tomes requirement for relic upgrade
- 6 month wait+ till next patch

this isn't repeatable content, just because you dont want long term goals does not mean this game is fine.

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but the problem i see is when we get the content we are expected to get, people are going to complain that its too much content for them to handle...at what point do we say that the community is to blame too with the game stagnating instead of blaming only the devs? people say shadowbringers was the best expansion ever...but that had the lowest amount of content in any of ffxiv and the content we got was dumbed down from the previous expansion...the only reason why shadowbringers didnt get as much hate as endwalker was asmongold came and the wow exodus brought in new people to the game

Blue Mage casts Doom

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Originally Posted by Heroman3003

If repetition isn't content, then isn't ALL content in the game just one-and-done? Aren't all relic grinds of the past that have been praised as 'good content' just repition of stuff youve already done 20 times over? What's the difference between repitition for achievement kind and repitition for stuff like relics or grinds in exploratory zones?

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meaningful reward, why would i grind a beast tribe past max rank if i have all the rewards?
is a achievement really a meaningful reward for 99% of the player base?
clearing a raid for bis gear? thats a reason to keep trying, to bad we get 4 raid bosses per 12 month cycle

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Originally Posted by kingskye

but the problem i see is when we get the content we are expected to get, people are going to complain that its too much content for them to handle...at what point do we say that the community is to blame too with the game stagnating instead of blaming only the devs? people say shadowbringers was the best expansion ever...but that had the lowest amount of content in any of ffxiv and the content we got was dumbed down from the previous expansion...the only reason why shadowbringers didnt get as much hate as endwalker was asmongold came and the wow exodus brought in new people to the game

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we pay for this game, sure some people will complain there is more content then they care to do, but hey easy answer, they just can not do it. but to deny people that actually want to play content because you only want to log in once a year is idiocy..

if you dont want to play the game then dont, but dont tell us we cant play because your busy playing baldur's gate instead.

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

knowing that this thread is just bait; here we go..
i hear plenty of valid criticism of the game, not so much doom saying.
you say there is loads of content, but lets take the patch thats dropping as an example: What are we getting?
-2 hours of a MSQ (probably being generous)
-1 hour of a hildi quest
- 1500 tomes requirement for relic upgrade
- 6 month wait+ till next patch

this isn't repeatable content, just because you dont want long term goals does not mean this game is fine.

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And then you see the "argument" that we are burned out ... burned out of what actually ? That doesn't make sense when the complain is that there is not enough content in each patch.

"Ho you complain that you want more stuff to do ? Then it's because you don't want to do stuff anymore !" The level of mental gymnastic is amazing :D

Achievements could be a decent activity to keep people interested longer if they actually had long term cumulative achievement point rewards.

As things currently stand you only need a couple thousand achievement points to clean out the shop then suddenly 90% of the achievements are now pointless fluff.

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

meaningful reward, why would i grind a beast tribe past max rank if i have all the rewards?

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There are achievements that give the same kinds of rewards as beasts tribes do, such as mounts, minions and titles.