Class reworks

Hey, who's super excited for the drg rework?
1-2-3 combo, either 1 positional or none, some generic oGCD, 2 min cooldown buffs, spamming skill, etc.

The new drg is going to be the most complex and fun dps to play in DT hahaha.... *sigh*

Who cares as long as it looks flashy, right? I just want to spamm fell cleave or heat blast

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Originally Posted by Valence

Who cares as long as it looks flashy, right? I just want to spamm fell cleave or heat blast

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"We here at Square Enix have decided to do a mini rework for Warrior, and by extension Marauder for both the Berserk and Inner Release abilities. Fell Cleave and Decimate no longer need a beast gauge to be used and will always be direct critical hits when used"

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Originally Posted by Valence

Who cares as long as it looks flashy, right? I just want to spamm fell cleave or heat blast

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Yep just watch you will get your 1-2-3-4-5 combo, your AoE combo and Gier/nastrond will turn into GCD fell cleave abilities you throw out afterwards, with an extra jump ogcd every 30s. Disembowel and Chaos thrust will get removed and that will be that.

I thought Yoshi P said specifically for AST it’s the card system that’s getting the complete overhaul. I can’t find the article but I’m sure that’s what was said. I don’t think they will touch their healing too much because it’s fine I think.

Don't forget the button that they say is for movement but for some reason has a potency on it so you end up using all of the charges for damage and just play without the movement

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Originally Posted by Chasingstars

"We here at Square Enix have decided to do a mini rework for Warrior, and by extension Marauder for both the Berserk and Inner Release abilities. Fell Cleave and Decimate no longer need a beast gauge to be used and will always be direct critical hits when used"

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You joke but legitimately the most idiosyncratic thing about WAR currently is that it starts out requiring three working braincells and then slowly works its way down to one as you level up.

Dumb it down more. For consistency.

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

I thought Yoshi P said specifically for AST it’s the card system that’s getting the complete overhaul. I can’t find the article but I’m sure that’s what was said. I don’t think they will touch their healing too much because it’s fine I think.

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They've been changing the cards ever since AST was introduced, I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of them all together or changed it into a 30s AoE small damage buff that you just threw out.

I don't think that more buttons equates to job complexity or depth, but SE doesn't seem to be able to make a small set of interdependent skills for a job.

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

I don't think that more buttons equates to job complexity or depth, but SE doesn't seem to be able to make a small set of interdependent skills for a job.

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Take the blm. The blm at 90 doesn't have many buttons. Yet it has a considerable complexity: the player has to manage his resources, his movement, his timers to always keep up.
The skill bar isn't chock-full of skills, but it's a consistent and challenging job for the player.

So clearly not necessarily having many buttons = complexity in gameplay. Also because you can have 100 buttons but if you then have to press the buttons in sequence with 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-etc it's like having 1 single button. But the argument also applies the other way around.

With 3 narrow skills how do you give depth to the gameplay?

Take an action game: basically it has "two" main skills, but there is the whole action system behind it which makes those two skills an infinite number of different combinations between attacks in the air, dashing attacks and all the possible declinations of attacks based on direction and moment of use, parry, dash, iframe, various combos, attacks based on direction. Then usually an action not only has those basic attacks + action core, but also has other factors that make the gameplay spicy which can be the fields, environmental modifiers, other special attacks, a deep building system etc.

Clearly this considering a classic pve game.