Blunderville - Cheatfest

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Originally Posted by Kranel_San

The reason why I'm still playing here instead of having a lv60 warlock in WoW classic era is because of those RMT bots who flooded the server with gold and made GDKP the only way to obtain loot (Aka gold buying the loot that drops)

Nope, it's definitely not dealt with in WoW, and I hope Microsoft do something about it.

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I wouldn't count on it personally, The wanted Activision/Blizzard for control of the Call of Duty Franchise as they most likely eventually plan to do with it the same thing they did with Starfield and probably with the next Elderscrolls as well and exclude it from Sony consoles to push xbox sales. They aren't likely to interfere with WoW unless they decide they want that title playable on xbox.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Should've been more specific. I know there's always gonna be a Reddit post of "this person is cheating!". But have you guys actually seen cheaters in action?
The way a select few talk about it, it's as if it happens every game.

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Cheaters aren't going to make it super obvious they are cheating, and some cheats are just inherently more subtle than others.
The game having no measures against cheating just means there will always be the possibility that someone else is cheating in a minor way you can't really notice.
Of course there is also the possibility of people just being paranoid or can't handle losing as well.

Just because you don't see someone running around at mach 5 or flying through the air doesn't mean there are no cheaters ,it could be something as minimal as giving themselves additional 10% movement speed, and that being enough.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I dont think you play wow, the second you fly hack, speed hack or anything alike in WoW you get instant banned because of dead zones, while in FFXIV you have flying lalas all over the place (over 150 on Dynamis at night and that's just for new gridania marilith)

I dont think FFXIV has any lesson to give to WoW in regards to fighting RMT and botting/cheating, it's all over the place, while in WoW it's actually dealt with.

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While I'm not a fan of any Blizzard games creatively, I respect that they actually put significant resources into fighting against cheating. They even sued some of the biggest cheat makers to stop their activities.

Square just don't fight for the integrity of their game at close to the same level. I think the relatively clean JP datacenters make them greatly underestimate the problems overseas.

People have been botting everything, going out of bounds, speedhacking, etc forever on NA/EU. I don't think these regions even have their own dedicated task force to monitor this stuff and learn the patterns of popular bots and cheats.

There's video of the cheat mod in action on Reddit so I'm not clear why anyone doubts people are cheating. This completely zaps the fun out of the event and needs to be fixed ASAP.

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Originally Posted by seaotter42

There's video of the cheat mod in action on Reddit so I'm not clear why anyone doubts people are cheating. This completely zaps the fun out of the event and needs to be fixed ASAP.

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There's no doubt about cheats being a thing.
But there is some doubt in how common cheaters are.
I still have not lost to a cheater and I have about 150 wins.
Not every person that runs better is guaranteed a cheater.

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Originally Posted by RyveSontek

There's no doubt about cheats being a thing.
But there is some doubt in how common cheaters are.
I still have not lost to a cheater and I have about 150 wins.
Not every person that runs better is guaranteed a cheater.

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I got a chuckle out of the video on the subreddit right now of people using the instant leave/join plug in to try and guarantee a solo instance. Was a surprising amount of people doing it in that video.

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Originally Posted by seaotter42

There's video of the cheat mod in action on Reddit so I'm not clear why anyone doubts people are cheating. This completely zaps the fun out of the event and needs to be fixed ASAP.

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The only person in here questioning it is me and I'm asking for how frequently people see it.
Judging from the couple responses so far, doesn't seem all too frequent.

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Originally Posted by SeriousPan

I got a chuckle out of the video on the subreddit right now of people using the instant leave/join plug in to try and guarantee a solo instance. Was a surprising amount of people doing it in that video.

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Yeah, that's kinda questionable and I dislike it because it makes the lobbies take longer to form. But these people are not cheating in runs. Since they only play solo runs.

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Originally Posted by MAJRIS

There is so many mentor necromancers and various "legend" titles blinking in and out of the waiting lobby, it's very depressing.

What is the point of competition if it's rigged from start?

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I don't understand what you're trying to say. Can you explain how whatever you're describing puts you at a disadvantage? I'm a console player who has played somewhere between 50-100 games (won 5 times), and I've never seen anything that made it seem like someone was winning by any manner of cheating.

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Originally Posted by RyveSontek

Yeah, that's kinda questionable and I dislike it because it makes the lobbies take longer to form. But these people are not cheating in runs. Since they only play solo runs.

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But they're cheating to get solo runs, so....still cheating.