AOE Spam Fest <Please remove it>

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

I really have to wonder though if some of the people complaining about the combat in XIV have ever done "endgame" content of any type though. If you think crowd combat is too easy in this game, there is no way you have ever done CC or Hamlet. If you think there are no difficult single enemy fights, try Garuda.

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Well, Garuda, CC and such are not "normal mobs". What I was referring to is roaming enemies the an exp party would take for exp. Do you remember the feeling of fighting coeurls in FFXI (can't remember the name of the cave), or fighting crabs, gobs etc? Or the feeling and emotion when pulling skellies?

That is what I was referring to. Of course there indeed is challenging content in FFXIV too and very good one so far too..... taken out the drop rates xD

This issue, it runs a fair bit deeper than simply the large amounts of foes faced at the same time in XIV.
It's not like you guys have an issue with XIV itself, but you have an issue with the style by itself. I'm very sure you guys wouldn't like a game like Dynasty Warriors, or schmups with wide arc shots, or half the fights in Kingdom Hearts 2.
It's pretty much not a fault of XIV's battle system or design, it's simply that the design style does not fits your tastes, and it's not a style that is unique to XIV either and I am very sure that you would not like any of the games in which this style is utilized.

Unfortunately, it's a unsolvable problem, because as a matter of taste, one can say that for each one that hates it, there is one who likes it. So in the end who do we gotta cater to? The one that most align with the developer's ideas, of course.

I agree with OP. When theres to much monsters, it takes away alot from combat, and it just feels like a spam fest.
1-4 mobs, more or less sounds like fun to me. There should be a balance between single target and aoe attacks.

At the moment, at places like strongholds, that fine line seems very far away to me.

A good way to solve this is to.introduce elite mob where their exp equivalent of exp.u can get in 5-10min and the fight will takes that long as well.

Just introduce the Oversoul mechanic from ff10-2. Mobs would get po'ed after you killed enough of them within a certain time frame and give you a sense of reward for killing them.

When the name of the games is pulling 8 mobs at a time, there's something obviously wrong. i can do 4 or 3, but 8 is just retarded.

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Originally Posted by Antanias

Just introduce the Oversoul mechanic from ff10-2. Mobs would get po'ed after you killed enough of them within a certain time frame and give you a sense of reward for killing them.

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I would love this. Not even kidding. This is a fantastic idea, but it seems like it'd be a bit tough to pull off in an MMO.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

I would love this. Not even kidding. This is a fantastic idea, but it seems like it'd be a bit tough to pull off in an MMO.

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Probably have Oversoul rarely happen (if at all) with lower-level mobs and have it's rate increase as the mob levels get higher.

I don't think this is an issue that can be resolved with just one change. It seems like, to me at least, it is a complex problem that involves more than one aspect of the combat system. Although I admit it is fun, I should not be able to tank wolves in Natalan and chain 10+ in all spiritbond gear. It just feels like something is wrong with that picture.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

You mean it doesnt feel FFXI-ish? Because you fight clusters oof mobs in other FF.

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There's a difference between spam fest and fighting a group of of mobs. XIV is a spam fest. Btw, you fight clusters of mobs in FFXI as well.