The hell were they thinking when doing "Newfound adventure" back on 6.1???

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Hmm, well perhaps he did and I forgot about it. But for sake of argument, let's assume he did say it. That's probably meant as the "premise" going into the expansion, but there's no way the whole expansion's story is just that. Just like how the final quest of ARR "The Parting Glass" is that we're going to a fun dinner party. I don't think we really want Yoshi-P telling us TOO much, do we?

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There's multiple search returns with the common theme being: During FanFest, Naoki Yoshida described Dawntrail as a “summer vacation” for players during the FanFest keynote.

Oh I agree, but that is the pitch we seem to be getting (so far).

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Originally Posted by Gember

If anyone reads the developer's blogs; they are taking a lot of time and energy focusing on the graphic's update..

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Ahhh, good ol' Toriyama Era Square Enix, focusing the resources on making everything look like a movie instead of gameplay.
I'm sure those people who don't own a gaming PC will enjoy the experience of not being to play this anymore.

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Originally Posted by WantlessYoYo

With now Dawntrail on the horizon and seeing more in retrospective, why, just why pull out all the newfound adventure thing so soon when it would've been the literal PERFECT setup for Dawntrail?

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I agree. I suppose all it shows is that even when the Warrior of Light tries to go on a new adventure, they can't help but beat up world-ending bosses for target practice.

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Originally Posted by WantlessYoYo

With now Dawntrail on the horizon and seeing more in retrospective, why, just why pull out all the newfound adventure thing so soon when it would've been the literal PERFECT setup for Dawntrail?

The premise was simple, you've saved the world and now you're free to do whatever you want, go to whatever place you wish and so on we go to New World on a well deserved vacations... but after said talk Tataru gives us we're thrown onto the Golbez/void arc

Put anything, literally anything as an excuse for us to meet Estinien with his map and remove this, and instead move this literal moment to the end of this expansion, because everything just indicates it was made as a great epilogue to DT
Tataru's talk, a new glam indicating traveling without a defined job, on the patch image all previous jobs Derplander has had with a big smile just looking foward and being free on this time HIS next adventure

Please tell me i'm not the only one who thinks this because i just think it's a shame such perfect and ideal setup was wasted this back on 6.1

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im pretty sure they could easily set up the 6.55 story into 7.0, 6.1 was just mwant to be "hey guys this game isnt dead"

To me, this whole post-patch EW story has just been very much a who cares? Non of it feels like it matters. We just saved the whole universe, to then go: oh, by the way, some dude in the void wants to destroy the world or whatever. It just feels very much like they were stuck with an idea of what to do and decided, hey lets go with a world ending threat.... again!

Scatterbrained thoughts are I feel like we should have been dealing more with the ramifications and loss and fear and rebuilding. There should have been lingering effects, from the stopping the Final Day, with the underlying idea of what was said, about how little we knew about and had explored of the world. That would be the set up to go visit the other places.

This whole Golbez thing could have been made into an expansion, later, to explore and recover the Thirteenth shard, somehow, instead of being shoehorned into post-patch and treated like oh no! the lady of wind! oh, she dead... whose next?

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Also, why has everyone convinced themselves that Dawntrail is all about the WoL going on a beach vacation, like we aren't going to have any real reason for going there? This seems like a huge assumption, based on one very brief teaser trailer. We're even seen engaged in combat for a bit in that trailer, what kind of "vacation" is that?? The expansion story could start out calm and light, but within the first half hour or so things are going to go screwy and we'll wind up finding out about something sinister that needs fighting.

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This. One joke about it being a summer beach holiday doesn't undo everything else we were shown in the trailer and keynote.

We're specifically there for an adventure that will be taking us to a lot of different places with inevitable danger and stuff. Of course we're going to take a moment to do touristy beach things upon arriving in a tropical coastal town, but that isn't going to be the entire plot and we've already been told as much, and seen it in the trailer.

It's not going to be a whole expansion of lazing on the beach and having really intense volleyball competitions or something.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

This. One joke about it being a summer beach holiday doesn't undo everything else we were shown in the trailer and keynote.

We're specifically there for an adventure that will be taking us to a lot of different places with inevitable danger and stuff. Of course we're going to take a moment to do touristy beach things upon arriving in a tropical coastal town, but that isn't going to be the entire plot and we've already been told as much, and seen it in the trailer.

It's not going to be a whole expansion of lazing on the beach and having really intense volleyball competitions or something.

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To be fair though, that's not the fault of the people who think that. That's on Yoshida for putting that idea out there. He could have been like, hey this is going to be initially a low key thing, but what mysteries are hiding under the surface. It's him that started this whole vacation thing.

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Originally Posted by ChrysOCE

To be fair though, that's not the fault of the people who think that. That's on Yoshida for putting that idea out there. He could have been like, hey this is going to be initially a low key thing, but what mysteries are hiding under the surface. It's him that started this whole vacation thing.

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It was one probably light-hearted statement amid a whole presentation of what we would actually be doing and seeing there. People for some reason have seized on it as if he walked on stage, said "we're off to the beach!" and showed nothing but shots of the Scions doing tourist stuff.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

It was one probably light-hearted statement amid a whole presentation of what we would actually be doing and seeing there. People for some reason have seized on it as if he walked on stage, said "we're off to the beach!" and showed nothing but shots of the Scions doing tourist stuff.

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Because:
https://www.polygon.com/23811679/fin...ease-date-ff14 Quote attributed to Yoshida: Yoshida said, “you did just save not only all of Hydaelyn, but kind of the whole universe, so we thought we’d give you a little break”
https://www.eurogamer.net/final-fant...ummer-vacation Quote attributed to Yoshida: Indeed, Yoshida described it as "the very best summer vacation" for Warriors of Light and quite the change from Endwalker.
And that's just two links.
I get it, I agree. But Yoshida himself is out there talking about vacations and breaks. This isn't stuff that people just made up, based on a single throwaway comment. I don't think it's fair to be going: why is everyone reacting like this or making this up? It's not like Yoshida is some kind of novice developer. He knows what message he is putting out there.

I'm fairly sure there was mention of political intrigue over a rite of succession in the slides as well. Make what you will of that.