Evolution Of Final Fantasy 14 Combat Each Expansion

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Originally Posted by Naraka

https://i.imgur.com/N4RMnnv.png

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"Sub jobs" is an overstatement, and was not added in HW, so it wouldn't really belong under a description of changes from ARR to HW; it simply remained exactly as is.

"RNG became casters" is likewise an overstatement. BLM depended less on RNG in HW than in ARR, while Bard depended more and both it and MCH were far more dependent on RNG than were any caster.

Nor was "Darkness" damage removed. It just only had a community name before, and now we have its present form.

Not all jobs became easier in going from Stormblood to Shadowbringers. Samurai did not; Ninja did not until 5.1. Monk more "got jankier" than "was simplified" until very late in the expansion (GL's removal, etc.). BLM and SMN were largely unaffected. The big hit was mostly just to healers, tanks, MCH, and kind of arguably BRD.

But, on the whole, this would seems a fair enough description, especially if the title were more simply/neutrally "arc" or the like.

In the video Xeno explains it a bit more iirc, should have linked that too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iTbWtxu_N4

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

"RNG became casters" is likewise an overstatement. BLM depended less on RNG in HW than in ARR, while Bard depended more and both it and MCH were far more dependent on RNG than were any caster.

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I might be misinterpreting you here, but OP meant "Ranged became casters" as in, both MCH and BRD had skills that gave them cast times, hence making them casters.

StB was interesting because it had both TP and job gauges. That was also when actions started getting removed and role actions replaced the cross class skills. Other things that come to mind/rechecking patch notes: added the indicator for curable status ailments, changed Weakness/BoD, several other stat changes (Piety affects max MP, Skill Speed also affects auto-attacks, Determination buffed, Critical Hit nerfed, Blocks/Parries buffed), HP/MP/TP get restored when entering an instance, MP/TP are restored after wiping, status ailments are removed when leaving an instance.

ShB changed the role action layout (mostly TP/enmity stuff), changed MP to 10000 and Piety accordingly, added action charges, and added interrupts.

EW increased combo timers and fewer things cancel them, and has the Determination buff. And more recently, the improved HUD cooldowns, party status timers, and party member font colors. Mostly QoL stuff though like it says up there.

Kissies for strummer~!

Stormblood should have been the point where the devs should have stopped simplifying the jobs, but at this point its beyond safe to say they'll end up having to learn the hard way as to why you do NOT make every job accessible to everyone!


How the hell does Warrior heal itself better than Dark Knight, for example? Warrior is a better Dark Knight than Dark Knight, lol!

My reaction to ShB going into EW combat evolution:

https://gifdb.com/images/high/tom-an...c3i1g48d5t.gif

I don’t know why anyone thinks WAR is remotely acceptable as a class

As Lucy pyre pointed out the devs are still terrified of benediction as a skill even though it’s been powercrept to hell and back then they decide to give WAR 4 benedictions on a 25 second CD in AOE situations and a fifth 3/4 benediction they can use whenever they want.

It also has by far the strongest AOE mitigation, the easiest rotation by far and also does the most damage

So it basically invalidates healers, presses 2 buttons to do more than GNB whos rotation is harder than half the DPS and somehow they still buff it every patch

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

I don’t know why anyone thinks WAR is remotely acceptable as a class

As Lucy pyre pointed out the devs are still terrified of benediction as a skill even though it’s been powercrept to hell and back then they de ice to give WAR 4 benedictions on a 25 second CD in AOE situations and a fifth 3/4 benediction they can use whenever they want.

It also has by far the strongest AOE mitigation, the easiest rotation by far and also does the most damage

So it basically invalidates healers, presses 2 buttons to do more than GNB whos rotation is harder than half the DPS and somehow they still buff it every patch

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It's especially mind boggling that they have been giving Warrior even MORE healing in the EW patches. Like why in the heck does Shake it Out need a healing over time component?

Looking forward to 7.0 WAR where they overbuff Shake it Off even more and give it a 10% mit on top of everything else, Vengeance will keep its thorns effect for whatever reason, and Inner Release will somehow be simplified even further as they add a fourth Fell Cleave copy.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

It's especially mind boggling that they have been giving Warrior even MORE healing in the EW patches. Like why in the heck does Shake it Out need a healing over time component?

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Nah fr, sometimes I think it can be favoritism between WAR and BLM.