The whole "you can have it and not even know" argument seems moot to me when we're talking about a guy who exhibited symptoms the morning of in his hotel room but just brushed them off, took a dayquil, and went to fanfest anyway. It's selfish as hell but that's the classical American response to an infectious disease I guess. "I paid for this trip, and if you all get sick because of me, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make" lol.
His biggest mistake was putting it online. I'm sure there were hundreds of people who weren't feeling 100% but showed up anyway. But this guy was stupid enough to broadcast it live so now he's getting a ton of heat. When people made the connection to Soken being an immunocompromised cancer survivor and "fans" showing up and spreading covid, the righteous fury hit an all time high on twitter last night. It was actually really amazing. Like a fireworks display of anger. It's weird to see people defending going to a totally optional for-fun public event while you're ill. To his credit, at least he got the hell out once he tested positive. I really think his biggest mistake was to make a comic about this shit, like this is the sort of thing where you just go home, pray you didn't give it to anyone while you had no idea you were carrying fucking covid, and then just keep it to yourself. So weird how people have to turn everything into clout shit.
Spreading COVID at Fanfest
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08-10-2023, 06:18 PMAvoidy
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08-10-2023, 06:28 PMCStrife912
I know full well Koros made this as another topic of contention because they know it was actively hated on Twitter and elsewhere for the selfishness of the person who made the comic. Get some original bait man like give it a rest and do something more productive.
In regards to the idea the person should have tested tbemself before going, it’s rather selfish to just ignore that and threaten the livelihood of others whose immune systems aren’t as great as your own. I’m going to the October fanfest I’m fully expecting to get Covid or a cold because of the stubborn nature of people these days. I know we pay money to go to these and most can’t get refunds… doesn’t mean you should go with the aim of infecting people either. Just a mask and some hand sanitizer is all I can do when that happens. -
08-10-2023, 06:54 PMAllegor
Pardon the ignorance but....is covid still rampant in the US? as far as the comic portrays, his only symptom were some random chills in the morning, and that could be literally anything, or nothing at all, so everyone's first reaction being "you should've tested for covid!!!!???" as if it was obvious feels....a little disingenuous. (it's very easy to critizise someone after the fact)
I do agree with Avoidy though, he was unlikely the only person who - knowingly or unknowingly - got infected, he's just the only one who felt the need to announce it publicly, thus becoming the scapegoat. Now everyone who was at fanfest and got covid will blame him, even if they got it from someone/somewhere else, or were already carrying the virus themselves. -
08-10-2023, 07:09 PMVelKallorIt isnt an argument. Its a MEDICAL FACT.Quote:
The whole "you can have it and not even know" argument
A chill? A slight headache? i get those now and then and I dont have Covid.Quote:
when we're talking about a guy who exhibited symptoms
They are common symptoms that can mean literally nothing. I get the shivers when I walk into an airconditioned building. Does that mean I have covid?
NO.
Its no more than anyone else does who doses themselves up with cold medication when they have to go into work or be fired. This is a common practice..everywhere. I had it happen to me for years when i was working..decades before covid even appeared.Quote:
It's selfish as hell but that's the classical American response to an infectious disease I guess.
Im an Australian.
Avoidy: the only way to make sure you dont have it is to test yourself once or twice a day. For LIFE. Or every time you sneeze. Or get a sniffle. Or a cough. The symptoms he experienced were possible for a dozen illnesses besides covid. You can have a sneezing fit over dust particles.
Still think its a good idea?
It is endemic everywhere and will be for the next 100 years.Quote:
..is covid still rampant in the US?
In my state?
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The state has recorded 1,949 new COVID-19 cases, down from last week's total of 2,262. There are 829 cases in hospital with the virus, 13 of those in intensive care. There were 34 new deaths recorded.
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08-10-2023, 07:21 PMDuskane
ill be honest tho
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08-10-2023, 07:29 PMVelKallorMate....thats been a thing for centuries all the way back to when kids used to sneak under the tents of a circus to see the show :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Duskane
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08-10-2023, 08:09 PMTheNightWorst of all... He's a furry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duskane
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08-10-2023, 08:21 PMAwesomeJr44
So if I'm reading this thread right...
A dude went to fanfest with an illness that was probably the virus of doom and had the bright idea to admit this on the internet by making an entire comic about it, we now have a thread on the forums about said Twitter comic where Vel is being their usual 'old man shouts at cloud' self, which sparked a small discussion over the Voldemort virus, and worst than all else, the original dude was a furry. What a world we live in... -
08-10-2023, 11:00 PMMcg55ssWho cares my age range the death rate for contracting COVID was less than 0.5%, even lower if you factor in people without pre-existing respiratory illness. Shit might suck but it happens and going to a big event like that you should expect it. It's why if I'm going to events where I expect a ton of people I'll take a lil bit of DayQuil and make sure to drop no orange juice with my breakfast few days prior just for preventive measures in case a lil virus attacks me.Quote:
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08-10-2023, 11:30 PMPayadopaAs someone who works on an ITU I just want to put an asterisk next to that and say that, yes, you can treat viral infections, and, yes, you can prevent them. Condoms and vaccinations for instance. The WHO declared Smallpox as eradicated after a big vaccination campaign, too, decades ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by VelKallor
I know what you mean, though. You probably cannot completely get rid of it. You just lower the chances. Having little outburst like that in larger gatherings in just normal, I completely agree. Unless we go back to a lockdown, good luck preventing that stuff.
Just felt the need to chime in. After Covid and lots of people turning into self-certified virologist on social media it's hard not to as someone who actually deals with that stuff. lol