Alliance raid fix?

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

This won't change anything. I am glad that it is happening because now people won't be able to blame ilvl cheese when they keep getting Crystal Tower.

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Yeah, came here to say this. Statistically, Crystal Tower will be your most likely result anyway.

And I know its just my personal experience, but I get a healthy amount of variety on my Alliance Roulettes (it's the only one I do every day, because I loathe 4-man stuff), to the point that I think people that complain have the worst luck in the world or have limited exposure to the roulette or are just exaggerating.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

It will change something. It will mean that when someone is trying to queue for a higher raid, more people will be available to be assigned to that raid through the roulette.

Meanwhile, if people have so many reasons to be direct-queuing for CT, the game will be able to group more of them together into a single run instead of getting spread out across more groups filled up with people who would be better assigned to higher raids.

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Technically, yes, I just think that when this change happens, people will still keep getting Crystal Tower a lot more than they want and that people shouldn't expect this to stop.

More people have access to Crystal Tower than any other raid because it is the lowest level and also required for MSQ, but even before that just being the lowest level was a huge factor.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Technically, yes, I just think that when this change happens, people will still keep getting Crystal Tower a lot more than they want and that people shouldn't expect this to stop.

More people have access to Crystal Tower than any other raid because it is the lowest level and also required for MSQ, but even before that just being the lowest level was a huge factor.

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Yet I think I have a hypothetical on how they're going to structure iLv Restrictions. They'll do it by Expansion.

ARR: Crystal Tower(i90)
HW: Void Ark Series(i235)
Stormblood: Ivalice Series(i365)
Shadowbringers: Nier Raid Series(i495)
Endwalker: Myths of the Realm(i625)

This way you have to meet iLv requirements to use the Alliance Roulette.

In the end though, those who had gripes at the potential of being cheesed, or loved it for some reason.

Knew the fact that Crystal still will have it's large spawn rate.

Even more so us here in the forums who will have heard it endlessly had they not decided to put some focus/look into it.

I take pleasure in the fact that it's closer to intended. Rather than the unintended.

Whilst it won't be as perfect as can be, at least nothing is lost. [while it cannot please those who would likely still want adjusted difficulties for old content. for the larger majority. it'll get rid of any doubt of the luck of the draw.]
(me personally, just glad it reduced more reasons for things such like when Cas would get ditched -for bs reasons.-)

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Originally Posted by Iscah

It will change something. It will mean that when someone is trying to queue for a higher raid, more people will be available to be assigned to that raid through the roulette.

Meanwhile, if people have so many reasons to be direct-queuing for CT, the game will be able to group more of them together into a single run instead of getting spread out across more groups filled up with people who would be better assigned to higher raids.

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Was just about to come in here and say this. I don't even queue alliance raid roulette anymore but it'll be nice to queue later araids for fun/glam and not have the queue take 30+ minutes in the middle of the day.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...25/476/979.jpg

Hahah, eat dirt cheesers. I'm very excited for this change.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

This won't change anything. I am glad that it is happening because now people won't be able to blame ilvl cheese when they keep getting Crystal Tower.

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Then why did people bother to item level cheese in the first place if according to you they were going to end up in Crystal Tower anyway? It's almost like they knew they might end up in a higher level raid. And now they will. :D

I'd temper expectations on this. While there were ilevel cheesers at times, CT is still going to be weighted heavily to come up in AR because it has the most reasons to be chosen. It's required for MSQ. This alone can make it the only raid some players ever unlock. It's tied to multiple relics. It's useful for leveling. And instead of being forced into higher level raids, the cheesers may just stop running it. I just don't see the others coming up nearly as much as some think.

I've been suggesting this for years and I am very excited that ilvl cheesing is finally dead. The only way this could be better is if they un-nerfed Orbonne.

Looking forward to watching all the cheesers get destroyed in the rest of the raids. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Hahah, eat dirt cheesers. I'm very excited for this change.



Then why did people bother to item level cheese in the first place if according to you they were going to end up in Crystal Tower anyway? It's almost like they knew they might end up in a higher level raid. And now they will. :D

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Not what jeeqbit is talking about. Cheesers will be affected by this but the impact on the rest of the roulette goers could very well be a lot lower than you think.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

I've been suggesting this for years and I am very excited that ilvl cheesing is finally dead. The only way this could be better is if they un-nerfed Orbonne.

Looking forward to watching all the cheesers get destroyed in the rest of the raids. :cool:

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I think they'd rather stop doing araid roulette.