It's been fun, but I'm out

I haven't seen bots in dungeons either.

Out in the world yes I see them but not in dungeons.

Most likely noobs than bots tbh. Or people on consoles who can't chat.

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Originally Posted by tsuchii

Most likely noobs than bots tbh. Or people on consoles who can't chat.

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you can still chat on console. I do it all the time. Just veeeery slowly lol

I have seen Blizzard 1 spam bots back in the day, but none recently and I run roulettes daily.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

you can still chat on console. I do it all the time. Just veeeery slowly lol

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I imagine some people don't chat at all, given that. Personally can't imagine not having a keyboard alongside the controller. Tbh this is the first I've heard of bots, but I also assume FFXIV players can be pretty lacking. Would explain some of the weird radio silences, though.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

ARR+ doesn't even use Crystal Tools, really: it's a bespoke hammered together ship of Theseus made out of the bones of Crystal Tools, pre-pro Luminous Engine, and those unlucky programmers who got close enough to its core; glued together with thousands of hours of 'anything goes as long as it works' breakneck labor. It's janky because they're building the track under the train as it runs, not because of relics from 2010. (Mostly.)

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Is there anywhere you can read more about this? Was always curious what happened to Crystal and what succeeded it.

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Originally Posted by SenahPanipahr

Is there anywhere you can read more about this? Was always curious what happened to Crystal and what succeeded it.

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Try wikipedia

"Though members of the Final Fantasy XIV development team worked on Luminous, Yoshida admitted that both Luminous and Crystal Tools were optimized for offline games and could not handle an online environment with hundreds of on-screen character models.[40] Though Version 2.0 uses a "completely different engine", he called the Luminous engine and the 2.0 engine "siblings" due to similarities in their structure."

It was also hinted in a more recent tech demo that FF16 is based on the FF14 engine. SE just limits it and does all this stuff on purpose, or occasionally because the original programmer left and didn't comment their code well.

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Originally Posted by SquirrelDerp

Are bots really that common? I've only been playing since like Stormblood, but I don't think I've come across anyone in queues that I'd think are a bot. Some kinda clueless new players, sure, but not bots. Unless they're way, way better than they were in wow

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The difference is that the game is heavily scripted, there has been videos of bots clearing savage, and for open world the bots are all noclipped into the ground. Basically the game has an even bigger bot problem than WoW but people dont care.

9 years playing, never seen a bot in dungeon....how is it common?

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9 years playing, never seen a bot in dungeon....how is it common?

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Its not, this is honestly the first time Ive ever heard about that and Ive been around my fair share of FFXIV community feedback outlets.

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Its not, this is honestly the first time Ive ever heard about that and Ive been around my fair share of FFXIV community feedback outlets.

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Ive had a small handful of Bots.....3 Dungeons I think lol.
The last one was in a SB Dungeon. Me and 2 people noticed the other DPS ignoring mechanics. And when we tried to help them and tell them what to do, they just blindly ran back in and did a typical 1-2-3 Combo, no buffs, no avoiding AOEs.
And they would return, not even wait for a rez, then run ALL THE WAY from the start, to the boss, and just run in again without waiting for us.

It was, bizarre and amusing.
After we realized it, we all bailed. Agreeing we wernt gonna give a bot a Clear.